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Glad to see that Timster is getting better.

dales wrote:Hitler should've won WW2.

Uhhhh, dales? The Jewish folks on this board . . . you do understand that we can read?

"Research You Can't Swallow"

Well worth the time!

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But if this method fails then they have to find a way to reconcile a god who made people gay and them damned them for being how he made them; tough to reconcile with the idea of a loving god. . . . And on the other subject of interpreting scripture, the Christian canon is not restricted to the OT. ...

Another take on to-ebah: http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibh2.htm Interesting, as this cites notes, that of the 613 commandments traditionally cited by Judaism as being contained in the Torah, Christians seem to find only 12 of any significance: Of the 613 laws, most Christian denominations r...

I'll repeat the words from the Jewish source that I quoted at length (and rubato, I only gave the NIV translations of the specific verses mentioned in the Jewish link; whether they were to do with homosexuality or not. I'm not particularly interested in that subject per se but in the use of the wor...

From the article at the Huffington Post that I originally linked to, these are the authors' translations of the two Leviticus provisions in question: "You shall not lay a male the layings of a woman; it is a to'ebah" (offensive thing) (Leviticus 18:22). "And a man who will lay a male the layings of ...

10 right . . . missed the ones about sharks hiding and about which birds hold funerals.

Pssst . . . Lord Jim : MajGenl.Meade isn't saying that there was no manger, only that the Bible doesn't report the wise men having arrived while Jesus was an infant; thus, creches that show them at the manger do not accurately reflect the Bible. See, for example, Snopes.com on the the "three wise me...

"God Rest Ye, Unitarians" Lyrics by the Rev. Christopher Gist Raible of the First Unitarian Church of Worcester God rest ye, Unitarians, let nothing you dismay; Remember there's no evidence there was a Christmas Day; When Christ was born is just not known, no matter what they say, O, Tidings of rea...

One fairly common Jewish point of view: Isaiah 53 The Suffering Servant: Cutting through the distortions and mistranslations of this enigmatic text. It begins: The 53rd chapter of Isaiah is a beautiful, poetic song, one of the four “Servant Songs” in which the prophet describes the climactic period ...

No offense taken. Some of my closest family members are Christians.

Favorite part of the Scriptures: Isaiah 58:6-10: 6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the fetters of wickedness, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke? 7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor tha...

I was proselytized by the Campus Crusade for Christ back when I was in college. Checked out all of the 130+ Christian supposed proof texts in the Jewish Scriptures claimed to be prophecies of Christ. Was not convinced. Many of them were simply egregious extractions of quotes from their rightful cont...

Sheer number of translations "of varying quality," and of the Bible, specifically. There are many, many translations, and they are different. They cannot all convey the exact sense of the languages from which they were translated, or they would not be different. Whether any of them does is a matter ...

I stand corrected - GrossDad's source messed up the citation - it being fairly clear that two entire chapters of Numbers do not devote themselves to (and in this case do not even mention) 'Sheol'. Rather calls the entire quote into question don't it so? Meade Not necessarily. It's a simple typograp...

Per GrossDad the Hebrew version of the OT is very substantially different from the English translations. Apparently users of var. European translations for exegesis are not to be trusted. Hire a Rabbi! yrs, rubato Unless that is sarcasm (because GrossDad messed up his first citation), then I have t...

Personally, I think all of the discussion regarding the translation of the word, "to know", in the story of Lot, is really beside the point. I think it's obvious that, in both places, the word is used to indicate sexual intercourse--but it is used with different connotations. In the case of his daug...

Per GrossDad the Hebrew version of the OT is very substantially different from the English translations. Apparently users of var. European translations for exegesis are not to be trusted. Hire a Rabbi! yrs, rubato I heartily recommend Richard Elliott Friedman's own translation, with commentary, of ...