IS it wrong to ask what happened to CSB?

[Miles]

But can it go on? Plan B is doomed to failing I suppose.

As with most things if we choose to ignore history it is sure to repeat itself.

[Gob]

Good point Miles !

[Miles]

I find the festive attitude at the possible demise of the CSB rather sad. It represents to me a loss of a 10 year part of my life where I made friends. While I will not dwell on it and have it cause me serious problems I still will feel a sense of loss of community.

Perhaps as I have aged along with my failing physical condition I view things differently. That and I tied up my goat years ago where no one could get to it, I just can't argue petty things with the passion that others can.

[The Hen]

I'm not being festive Miles, as most others are not either.

I am gutted. Truly.

But I can do nothing else about anything at present.

I am looking forward to talking to Sean in the future.

[@meric@nwom@n]

I don't feel festive, in fact there is a feeling of loss. I invested a lot of time in that place.

I suppose I should rethink my priorities.

[Timster]

*Heavy Sigh* That is the Bottom line, AW. I said it before.... oh never-mind.

I am done. Life is too short. Best of luck to one and all concerned. I wish you the best.

But I refuse to be dragged down by your Dis-functionalism any longer. My own is quite enough, thanks.

Good luck with that~

[Lord Jim]

I don't feel festive, in fact there is a feeling of loss. I invested a lot of time in that place.

I don't feel "festive" either, but I went through that sense of loss a few months ago, after for one brief shining moment, it appeared we might have a chance to turn things around....

And then, those hopes were dashed....

But my take on this is that while yes, of course each and everyone of us could have behaved better, the Lion's share of the blame for the state the CSB descended to lies not with editec, (who was always pretty much the same in good times and bad) or with Steve, (who grew progressively more and more deranged)

But with the one person, who had real power in the situation....the person who started out with a nearly universal reservoir of goodwill, who everyone looked to, because of her role, to serve as an honest broker...

The person who, had she chosen (or had the skill set..in a sense maybe it wasn't really her fault...maybe she was just never really constitutionally cut out for the role she was in) to do so, could have worked to use the goodwill and trust she enjoyed to diffuse situations as they arose....

The person who chose instead, through her actions, her behavior, her demeanor, and her whole, arrogant, condescending, "I will apologize for nothing, I will admit to absolutely no failings on my part, and I will dismiss anyone who questions me as being nothing more than a member of a 'handful of chronic malcontents'" schtick, completely pissed away the trust and moral authority she had, and instead of diffusing situations, inflamed them exponentially... (which was compounded by the fact that she also chose to ally herself firmly with one small faction against what eventually grew to be nearly everyone else)

As everybody here knows, I could certainly not be characterized as a long time "Gwen basher" or someone who nursed a grudge against her for years...I was never a part of any "handful of chronic malcontents"....

I came very late, and very reluctantly to the conclusion that Gwen wasn't suited for the role she was in, and defended her vigorously for a very long time. Until at long last, the objective facts of what she was doing, and the damage it was causing, became impossible to in any way continue to rationalize or deny.

I had a lot of affection for Gwen, (and this may sound very strange given everything I've said, but I continue to) and the more I think about it, the more I sort of feel sorry for her....

Gwen's skills lie in the technical arena. Gwen simply does not have good "political" "public relations", or "diplomatic" skills. It's just not who she is. She also is just simply not the sort of person who by temperament, can act as an impartial judge of disputes. She was in a role she just wasn't suited for.

It's really not her fault that she's not good in those areas; but unfortunately those are precisely the skills that were required for someone in the role she had; and it was her lack of those skills that in my view, was undeniably the biggest contributing factor to the CSB winding up in the condition that it ultimately came to.

[Gob]

Miles, what you may have seen as festive was an attempt to defuse the CSB bomast which, due to the CSB shutting, had rolled over into this place. (I believe.) That was certainly my reason for levity about it here. The temperature here had started rising, so a few of us played the evil henchman (me to best effect) to take some of the sting out of the conversation..

Hell, all of us are here due to the CSB, most of us, (all?) are mourning its demise.

But let’s not let this become the arena for bloodletting over who is “responsible” for it being (temporarily) closed down.

Sure we should air our views, but let’s not escape one charnel house of infighting, just to create another. If for no other reason that I don’t have Editec to beast all over the board here for my sadistic delights, so one of you wankers could cop it!

[Crackpot]

I'd be careful picking one of us....

We're known for backing up our arguments

[Gob]

LOL!! Oh bugger, that woudl be a new challenge

[@meric@nwom@n]

Well Jim it was just not that easy for Gwen. Clearly in love with Editec she seemed compelled to fight his battles for him. Her relationship with Steve was clearly based on his blind loyalty to the object of her affections.

His fault her fault my fault your fault, really doesn't much matter. We have to strive to make sure this place does not go the way of that place.

Never say never to getting rid of rotten eggs as the majority deems it....

[Lord Jim]

I don’t have Editec to beast all over the board here for my sadistic delights, so one of you wankers could cop it!

If I start accusing you of talking non-stop about your sex life, can I get the part?

[liberty]

I predict that the wolves will always vote to get rid of the sheep especially around dinner time. Have you ever noticed that a person that you agree with will always be smarter that a person that you don’t.

I personally believe what killed the CSB was a lack of tolerance and that some people like to be nasty to others. I myself never understood the attraction of nastiness. Does that make me unmanly?

[Lord Jim]

Have you ever noticed that a person that you agree with will always be smarter that a person that you don’t.

I have to disagree with you there Lib; that's not been my experience....

I've known plenty of folks who I consider to be very intelligent who have disagreed with me...

(And a few who have agreed with me who I suspect ain't building cold fusion reactors in their basements in their spare time, if you catch my drift....)

It's entirely possible to be intelligent and wrong simultaneously...

It's also entirely possible to be dumb as a box of lug wrenches and some how stumble on to the truth....

[Gob]

If I start accusing you talking non-stop about your sex life, can I get the part?

I bet you say that to all the boys...

[loCAtek]

Gob, I don't understand why you de-registered (or tried to), it seemed quite hasty to me. And then asking to 'ban the lot of us' Why wasn't I consulted, I didn't want to be banned, so why presume to speak for me?

[@meric@nwom@n]

I don't believe your name ever entered the picture. The one's Eddie wanted banned were Hen, Gob, and me. Please dismount your high horse.

[loCAtek]

It's why I'm asking @w, because I wasn't there, I was at work. I have a swing-shift, and now I can't open the board to see 'what happened to CSB?'

[The Hen]

None of us can see it Lo.

G-Man has taken it down for a while.

[loCAtek]

OK, so why did Gob try to de-register? Was it because of something Editec said?