Plan B Forum

let's ban liberty, enough said. I have a lot to do anyway.

Pssssst.... You don't need to be voted off of here.... You can leave on your own.

But what's going on? Tell me what you're going through.

Do you get the blues at Christmas? Are you seeking attention and/or sympathy? Are you down and out?

I'm an unlicensed PHD and highly experienced at dealing with people who have unlicensed mental problems.

I'm on call 24 hours per day if you can catch me while I'm awake. Hang in there buddy. Help is on the way.

Lib, creating this thread represents self absorbed drama queen behavior...

You know very well that nobody on this board has any desire to ban you from here, so the only possible motive for a thread like this must be to get attention...

Joe Guy wrote:Pssssst.... You don't need to be voted off of here.... You can leave on your own.

But what's going on? Tell me what you're going through.

Do you get the blues at Christmas? Are you seeking attention and/or sympathy? Are you down and out?

I'm an unlicensed PHD and highly experienced at dealing with people who have unlicensed mental problems.

I'm on call 24 hours per day if you can catch me while I'm awake. Hang in there buddy. Help is on the way.

No I am not interested in attention, but would like to discus controversial issues without worrying about somebody having a stroke.
I am basically bored, I need a challenge.

Also, I am team oriented; I don’t want to be disruptive. If I am not making a contribution here; perhaps it is time to do something else.

Lord Jim wrote:Lib, creating this thread represents self absorbed drama queen behavior...

You know very well that nobody on this board has any desire to ban you from here, so the only possible motive for a thread like this can be to get attention...

Not true in my case. If I won the lottery I would try to collect the money anonymously. I want to contribute to this board.

No I am not interested in attention, but would like to discus controversial issues without worrying about somebody having a stroke.
I am basically bored, I need a challenge.

Also, I am team oriented; I don’t want to be disruptive. If I am not making a contribution here; perhaps it is time to do something else.

What would any of that have to do with the creation of this thread?

First of all, it is logically self falsifying for a person to say they are "not interested in attention" when they start a thread about themselves...(let alone one that's supposed to focus on banning them)...

Lib, the very act of doing this is so self-evidently an expression of seeking attention, that it is insulting to the intelligence of the other participants here to pretend otherwise...

So you might as well just drop that nonsense...

Moving along...

would like to discus controversial issues without worrying about somebody having a stroke.

I don't have detailed health records of any of the other participants here, but I suspect none of them are in imminent danger of having a stroke, and if they were, I think I can confidently say that nothing that you, (or any one else here, for that matter) says on this board would play a role in it...

(That bit looks like a straw man, with more drama added...)

I am basically bored

That would explain why you started this...

Also, I am team oriented; I don’t want to be disruptive.

Lib, you've been around here long enough to know that we're not trying to create some sort of "Commune" here...

There are no "teams" here, just a bunch of surly middle aged individuals, and disruption is always welcome...

If I am not making a contribution here

There you're making yourself sound like a reserve tight-end who's not getting enough playing time and wants to be traded...

perhaps it is time to do something else.

That's entirely up to you...

I think it's glaringly obvious that the whole purpose for your creating this thread is that you feel that you've been beat up around here recently and you're looking for some "validation" and reassurance that you are wanted here as a participant...

Well, if that's what you want, for my part, I'm happy to extend that to you. You definitely have an, uh, unique take on many things, and I believe this place would be poorer for your departure...

(Now don't go getting a swelled head about that; I'd say the same thing to rubato... )

ETA:

Nobody has voted yet in this "poll", and personally I think nobody should. There's no value to it.

surly middle aged individuals

I am not surly.
And I don't think anyone should be banned.

The other thread messed me up so here it again. I am not going to do anything dishonorable. If I am banned my honor will require me to stay away no matter what I want. I want to test myself; it is no more complicated than that.

Except you're the only one talking about banning. So why don't you cut the shit and do the honorable thing and address your own behavior and stop cowardly using a mere claim of "honor" as a shield to hide behind.

Honor comes from acts not claims.

Once again for the cowardly:

MajGenl.Meade wrote:Well lib, if you really can't see that your direct characterization of all "liberals" (even if you exempt one) as people without honour is highly offensive (and not just to liberals by the way), then you are either remarkably short-sighted, wondrously dense or not telling the truth. I choose to believe one of the first two.

Your sentences are confusing.

It's important to understand what language says and means. In your final sentence you intended (IMO) "they had no sense of honour" to refer back to the bombers. But the plural noun used immediately prior was "liberals" whom you have just accused of that same failing and before that the subject was "legal immigrants".

No matter what you may have meant, your words appear to MEAN that you accuse liberals of (a) not having the concept of honour explained to them as children and (b) that "promises" made to infidel nation (the USA) do not count amongst liberals. Or you are accusing "legal immigrants" of the same.

In the final analysis, even accusing the bombers as persons having no sense of honour is questionable. What you mean (I assume) is that their sense of honour is not the same as your sense of honour; that what you define as reprehensible is not, apparently, congruent with their own. No matter how many agree with you, the fact is that you make no allowance for other factors and dismiss any serious consideration of the difficulties, the victories and the losses of people confronting an alien culture and how it can indeed go wrong, no matter how well the concept of "honour" is understood.

Meade

Don't worry Lib Phil will get back on Duck Dynasty

I guess the village idiot didn't get the pity party he was hoping for.

Pity party? Hardly he's trying to martyr himself in order to justify his viewpoint.

Lib, let me try to explain something, just in case you may not be aware of it....To use the most recent example:

When you say something, (as you did) that seems to imply (or state outright, depending on how you interpret it) that "liberals have no honor" every person here who identifies with the group you have just made this sweeping accusation against, is going to take it as a shot directed at them.

And they're going to be pissed about it, and they're going to react accordingly. (And other people like myself, who don't necessarily identify with the group you've tarred with your broad brush, are going to be scratching our heads wondering why you made such a sweeping condemnation.)

It's like when rubato posts about how "Republicans are traitors". I know that his intent is to call me (and any other Republicans here) traitors, while at the same time being able claim he didn't do that. It's a passive/aggressive way of being insulting...

A lot of what you post is being interpreted the same way, and that's why you get a lot of the reaction you receive. Now, if in your case, (unlike rube's) it is not your intent to make what certainly look like passive/aggressive insults, then I strongly suggest that you think carefully about what you write.

A couple of suggestions would be to avoid sweeping generalizations, and review what you write with an eye towards thinking about how what you have said might be interpreted by others. And if in going through this process you see something that you think might be interpreted in a way you did not intend, re-word it.

It's not like it's the first time he has made such outrageous generalizations.

Like this:

liberty wrote:It is about Sue or more precisely her attitude towards the Constitution. To me the Constitution is sacred, but among my liberal friends I have come to the conclusion it is not predominately the case. A parallel could be made with marriage vows or a contract. “Are they words you say then forget“? (Judds) Perhaps the liberal motto should be: Pity the fool the fool that follows the rules.

Or this:

liberty wrote:There are thing that can be done that would make the country safer and still be constitutional. A lot of the blame for nothing happening falls on the shoulders the lefts; their lack of respect for the constitution generates an enormous amount of distrust. If we could just trust each other a lot could be done. Generally, to liberals only the parts of the constitution that have any legitimacy are those that they favor.

He puts on this disingenous "don't mind what I say, I'm just a dumbass cracker" routine to blunt the shitstorm he attracts by doing it, but there's only so many times one person can throw bombs like that before it becomes clear that it's deliberate.

And playing this wounded puppy routine every time someone tries to make him take responsibility for his own words is long past its best before date.

My diagnosis of liberty is now complete and ready to be published. Below is a synopsis of my 42 page appraisal...

Diagnosis

When analyzing the symptoms of this patient it is important to review historical data and make comparative diagnoses taking into account environmental factors. A high incidence of staccato-like and seemingly random expressions have been noted and are representative of this middle-aged male's character. He appears to have problems concentrating which hinders his ability to express himself clearly. There is indication that he no longer enjoys activities that were once pleasurable to him. It is likely that he is unable to relax physically which is transmuted through his conversational language as strained, fatigued and often unclear statements.

Conclusion & Treatment

Given the historical recurrence of the subject's behavioral abnormalities and continuing apparent frustration with his surroundings, a mild depressive episode is evident and is likely to continue to progress incrementally throughout the current holiday season. It is recommended that, in lieu of medication, friendly surroundings would be helpful and critical to his recovery. Barring the cooperation of his constituents in this process, electroconvulsive therapy is suggested.

Joe Guy ULPHD

Joe Guy wrote:My diagnosis of liberty is now complete and ready to be published. Below is a synopsis of my 42 page appraisal...

Diagnosis

When analyzing the symptoms of this patient it is important to review historical data and make comparative diagnoses taking into account environmental factors. A high incidence of staccato-like and seemingly random expressions have been noted and are representative of this middle-aged male's character. He appears to have problems concentrating which hinders his ability to express himself clearly. There is indication that he no longer enjoys activities that were once pleasurable to him. It is likely that he is unable to relax physically which is transmuted through his conversational language as strained, fatigued and often unclear statements.

Conclusion & Treatment

Given the historical recurrence of the subject's behavioral abnormalities and continuing apparent frustration with his surroundings, a mild depressive episode is evident and is likely to continue to progress incrementally throughout the current holiday season. It is recommended that, in lieu of medication, friendly surroundings would be helpful and critical to his recovery. Barring the cooperation of his constituents in this process, electroconvulsive therapy is suggested.

Joe Guy ULPHD

I have already done it, not that it was intentional.



That is why for reasons of safety I wear no jewelry of any kind, especially gold. Hint; I work in electronics

That is why for reasons of safety I wear no jewelry of any kind, especially gold. Hint; I work in electronics

Me too.
Many years ago we had a large chassis where there were two buss bar at the top, one +5V and one Ground. The top of the chassis was open to allow air to blow up from below to cool the elctronics inside. All us techs knew not to play around that area of the chassis. So one day a field tech comes by and is leaning on the top of the chassis talking to the tech working on it. All of a sudden the field tech starrt yellin and grabbing at his wrist and pulls off his copper bracelet. Turns out the bracelet shorted +5V and Gnd and it got really really hot. Ended up branding the guy wearing with a perfect impression of the bracelet onto his wrist.

My wife was hurt when we first got married and I would not wear my wedding band to work. I explained why and she agreed better safe than sorry.