Just another day in the American warzone

[dales]

I'm thinking bullshit...if only because a 9mm will go through a laptop like paper.

You have a very poor understanding of ballistics.

Obviously a direct shot yes, but an indirect hit from some distance not so much.

[Jarlaxle]

I have watched a 9mm punch cleanly through a 2x4. Unless it hit at nearly a 90 degree angle, I'm saying bullshit!

[Crackpot]

Wood isn't that dense

[dales]

I have watched a 9mm punch cleanly through a 2x4. Unless it hit at nearly a 90 degree angle, I'm saying bullshit!

Well, if you're pig-headed enough not to believe the video evidence presented.

There's nothing I or anyone can do to help.

[dales]

Wood isn't that dense

But some people are.

[Crackpot]

It went without saying

[Lord Jim]

Apparently it didn't...

[Joe Guy]

The guy said the bullet hit his backpack after it ricocheted. That would have slowed the bullet down a bit, wouldn't it?

[Jarlaxle]

Dramatically, if it even remained intact.

[Joe Guy]

That's what I figured since the bullet was found within the guy's backpack.

[oldr_n_wsr]

But, our ever protective TSA WILL stop you from bringing the smallest swiss army knife, complete with plastic toothpick, tweezers, tiny scissors, a 1.25 inch spear point blade and fingernail file with slot screwdriver. Your flying safety is their highest priority.

They took yours too?!?!?!?

[Burning Petard]

"9mm" is a unit of measure. The loaded cartridges that were fired at the Florida airport has not been identified in any of the news reports I have seen or heard. Such cartridges can vary significantly in terms of the construction and shape of the bullet and the amount of chemical energy provided. These factors all affect the results when the fired bullet hits something. The only thing they have in common is the diameter of the bullet--nominally 9mm.--and the shape of the cartridge containing the powder.

By the by, The 9mm parabellum cartridge was developed in Europe about a hundred years ago to produce results similar to the old police standby, the .38 special. Most police forces in the USofA changed to the 9mm because 'the 38 special was not powerful enough' What they really meant was they wanted to have more than six shots before reloading. The 9mm pistol designed by John Browning as an improvement on the .45 Colt auto pistol used by the US military (which in the military version usually has 8 rounds) the P35 or Browning Hi-Power, had 13 shots before reloading. Contemporary 9mm pistols frequently hold 18-20.

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[oldr_n_wsr]

And lets not forget the projectile type. Hollow point, wad-cutter, metal jacket, etc.
All deform differently upon impact.
A quick search showed me a bunch more than I knew about

[dales]

I'll take the .357 Mag over 9mm any day of the week.

[rubato]

And lets not forget the projectile type. Hollow point, wad-cutter, metal jacket, etc.
All deform differently upon impact.
A quick search showed me a bunch more than I knew about

And then there is +p ammunition as well.


yrs,
rubato

[Jarlaxle]

I'll take the .357 Mag over 9mm any day of the week.

The KE of a .357 Mag and a 9x19mm are comparable.

[dales]

Close but NO cigar.

I'll take the raw knockdown power of the .357 MAG over any 9mm cartridge.