When not to call a black man black

[MajGenl.Meade]

An amazing display of bad temper, ignorance and just plain politically correct insanity - and I don't mean the referee in this mess.

A Champions League soccer match resumed on Wednesday with a new set of officials, after the original Tuesday game was postponed following an incident of alleged racism by an official that resulted in both teams walking off the pitch.

Here's the thing. The referee team is Rumanian. The fourth official Sebastian Coltescu, told referee Ovidiu Hategan that Basaksehir assistant coach Pierre Webo should be sent off the field for his sideline conduct.

He spoke in Romanian saying, "Du-te și dă-i lui negru, acest lucru nu este tolerabil du-te și identifică-l, du-te verifică, cel negru de acolo"

Which being translated is: Go and give it (the red card) to the black one, this is not tolerable, go and identify him, go verify, the black one over there"

Webo heard "negru" and immediately began shouting over and over and over again "Why you say negro?" It was explained that 'negru' (not negro) is Rumanian for black. Webo is the only black sideline coach present.

One and then more of the players then began to demand this and that - execution of the Rumanian for racism - accusations that he would never say "that white guy" so it must be racist and so on. Both teams walked off the pitch.

Today former Liverpool and England star (John) Barnes, who is now a pundit and a prominent commentator on racism and discrimination within society, repeatedly made clear to his followers that he believed the official did nothing wrong, and was only fulfilling his duties of passing information on to the referee . . . Barnes went on to outline his belief that the official would have acted likewise had the coach he was trying to point out been white. '[Demba] Ba said if he was white u wouldnt say white guy... but if there were 5 black coaches and 1 white coach .. he would have said “the white one”... what else could or should he say?'

This is John Barnes


Meantime, no one is discussing what Pierre Webo said and did to earn his dismissal from the sideline but it had to be rather bad since the language there is normally hot. Good job of blame-shifting Pierre

[Gob]

The lunacy continues unabated...

[Big RR]

I recall an apocryphal (and maybe true, maybe not) story about Thurgood Marshall; he was a meeting (or something) with all the other USSC justices up on the dais; he apparently overheard someone in the front of the audience asking a friend "Which one is Justice Marshall); the friend replied something like "the third one in the second row, next to..." and he yelled down "It's OK to say I'm the black man" (or colored or negro or whatever term was used then; and he apparently was the only black man on the stage).

[TPFKA@W]

I work with 2 ladies named Candace. One is white and one is black. We would distinguish by saying "white Candace" or "black Candace", and by we I mean coworkers of both races, and the Hispanics that are here or there. No one was offended, particularly either Candace. Someone ingeniously came up with alternate designations though, and they are now referred to as "salt" and "pepper". I seriously have not seen one incident of anyone being offended by being described as black. " Conversations typically go something like this, "Hey Bette, have you seen Rachelle?" (Query from POC RN), I reply, "I don't think I know her." Reply from POC RN : You've seen her, she's that really tall black girl." Me: Oh yeah, she is on ren 2." It is a normal way of describing someone when you are attempting to be accurate and my guess is it was an excuse to draw attention away form his transgression.

[Burning Petard]

Are any Europeans allowed to live near the Niger River? But does one ever describe an individual a 'that tall white nurse'?

snailgate

[Joe Guy]

Based on her photo, I'd think people could come up with something other than "tall black girl".

[TPFKA@W]

Based on her photo, I'd think people could come up with something other than "tall black girl".

Striking topless lady?

[Joe Guy]

Striking topless lady?

Much better....

[TPFKA@W]

A white scientist is studying an African tribe.
One day, the tribe leaders wife has a white son.
The tribe leader approaches the scientist soon after.
"Well, we both know what happened here. No one else could have done it. You slept with my wife, I have to kill you." The tribe leader says.
The scientist's brow furrows as he is deep in thought.
"No no no sir there's been a terrible misunderstanding!" The scientist exclaims. "Look out at the pasture." He points his index finger to the fields, where a flock of sheep are grazing.
"Yes, what is the matter? It's just sheep." The tribe leader asks.
"Do you see that sheep? It's black, while the rest of the sheep are white. The same can be said about your son, It simply happens sometimes in nature."
The tribe leader grasps the scientists shoulders and stares him down intensely.
"I won't say anything about my son if you don't say anything about that sheep"

[Bicycle Bill]

But does one ever describe an individual a 'that tall white nurse'?

snailgate

Well, there was that scene in the original movie "M*A*S*H" where Trapper John has just been appointed Chief Surgeon ....


-"BB"-

[Big RR]

But does one ever describe an individual a 'that tall white nurse'?

when I was in Hawaii, I often heard the term haoli (pronounced howl-ee, not sure of the spelling) used to described white (non Polynesian) persons; it can be used as a derogatory word, but is also used matter of factly by the Islanders to point out white people ("That haoli over there") with no offense intended or implied. It's just a convenient way of identifying a person being referred to (and it likely wouldn't be used to point out a white nurse in a room full of white nurses).

[Jarlaxle]

Are any Europeans allowed to live near the Niger River? But does one ever describe an individual a 'that tall white nurse'?

snailgate

If she (or he) is the only white nurse in view...probably.