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I'm in the process of applying for an Aussie passport...
New Australian passports allow third gender option

The reform aims to curb gender discrimination Australians have been given a third choice when describing their gender on passport applications, under new guidelines aimed at removing discrimination.

Transgender people and those of ambiguous sex will be able to list their gender as indeterminate, which will be shown on passports as an X.

People whose gender was different from that of their birth were previously required to have reassignment surgery before they could change their passport to their preferred sex.

An Australian senator, Louise Pratt - whose partner was born female and is now identified as a man - said the reform was a huge step forward.

"There have been very many cases of people being detained at airports by immigration in foreign countries simply because their passports don't reflect what they look like," she told Australian radio.

"It's very distressing, highly inconvenient and frankly sometimes dangerous."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-14926598
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with gender discrimination. My wife has never had her prostate examined and I've never had a pap smear. Our family physician must of necessity discriminate between us on the basis of our gender.

The people operating any public accommodation would be lax if they failed to ensure that men use only the men's toilets and vice versa (except in extremely unusual circumstances); they MUST discriminate on the basis of gender. High school boys swim topless, girls remain covered on top, and their swim instructors would be quite negligent if they did not employ gender discrimination when implementing this policy. Indeed, the organizers of virtually all sports competitions all discriminate on the basis of gender, otherwise the competition would become a farce.

While I recognize that we all retain a right to mutilate our individual bodies and pretend to be whatever we would prefer to be, gender wise, I don't think it is asking too much for people to be clear and unambiguous about what that choice is. The solution to this "problem" is to make it easier (and maybe quicker) to modify one's passport to reflect one's current gender identification, or, if one's appearance has changed dramatically for other reasons, to insert a replacement passport photo.

There is no "Gender X."

Again, this is not a problem of "gender discrimination" (which is neither good nor bad), but rather accommodating fucked up people who want special treatment.

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Hoo-boy, this would totally make the US airport security people's heads explode;
who searches what? The regs say men check men, and women check women; I don't think there are enough 'X's employed in security, to check other 'X's. So, what would be done?

A: Each X would have to be scanned by the full-body airport scanner ...it's the only thing nuetral enough.

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What about people who were born inter-sexed?

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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True hermaphroditism in humans differs from pseudohermaphroditism in which the person has both X and Y chromosomes (not to be confused with the normal XY chromosome of males), having both testicular and ovarian tissue, and having both but ambiguously looking external genitalia. One possible pathophysiologic explanation of this rare phenomenon is a parthenogentic division of a haploid ovum into two haploid ova. Upon fertilization of the two ova by two sperm cells (one carrying an X and the other carrying a Y chromosome), the two fertilized ova are then fused together resulting in a person having dual genitalial, gonadal and genetic sex.
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So what does the true hermaphrodite do?

Must they pick the sex they most often feel they identify with? What if they just feel like a person?
Bah!

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Ten-year-old Livvy James loves her new school uniform, particularly the smart, grey skirt with two pleats and pockets decorated with hearts.


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‘Walking to school on my first day back, I was nervous and excited, but most of all I just felt like shouting ‘‘Yeay!’’ ’ says Livvy, who wore her shoulder-length blonde hair that day in a swishy pony-tail.

‘I was so excited that I didn’t care what people thought about me. Even if people looked at me or were saying nasty things, I didn’t care. I felt happy because I could be me and didn’t have to pretend any more.’

Pretty, softly spoken and unashamedly girlie, with a passion for pink and diamante, there is little to distinguish Livvy from the other Year 6 girls returning to primary school in Worcester. Except for one startling fact: Livvy finished the summer term of Year 5 as Sam — as in Samuel.

He walked out of the school gates in July as a boy wearing trousers, polo shirt and trainers, and returned in September, with the school’s agreement, as a girl.

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That nerve-racking morning, Livvy’s anxious parents Saffron, 36, and Phillip, 34, sat in the school hall as the headteacher gave a special assembly to explain to the pupils that Sam was now Livvy and they should refer to ‘him’ as ‘her’. The headteacher explained that Livvy had a medical condition called gender dysphoria, which meant that ‘in her head she felt she was a girl and not a boy’.

She added that just as with other medical conditions, such as being disabled or having to wear glasses, on no account would any name-calling or bullying be tolerated. The response, says Livvy, was one of understanding. At least initially.

‘None of the other children called me nasty names and the boys accepted me as a girl. A few of them kept calling me by my old boy’s name, but I didn’t mind because it takes time to get used to something new. I have a small group of close friends — all girls — who would look after me if anyone tried to pick on me, so I’m not worried. I have as much acceptance as I need.’

But does she? The day we meet she is not in school, though she longs to be, but at home. She tells me she has been in hiding since her real gender became public knowledge, turning her family’s life into ‘a circus’.

Some disgruntled parents at Livvy’s school were so outraged they hadn’t been informed of the situation by letter before the assembly that they went to the local paper to vent their anger. The story quickly went global.

One parent reportedly said: ‘We are not against the child. It’s the children being asked to treat her differently and watch a transgender video without parents knowing.

‘My children came home and said: “What are genitals?” ’

A minority, however, have been far more vicious, posting online comments about Livvy’s ‘freak family’. Meanwhile, a debate rages as to whether her symptoms are a result of a medical condition or due to the way she has been brought up.

Gender dysphoria, also known as gender identity disorder and transgenderism, is classed as a psychiatric condition, but recent studies suggest it has much to do with biological development.

But is Livvy really a girl trapped in a boy’s body? Could she simply be confused or just a sensitive child who doesn’t fit in with other boys?

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z1YFYBrn4p



She's the spiting image of my mate's daughter when she was that age!
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And of the Hatch's best friend from PS years 4 and 5.
Bah!

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