@meric@nwom@n wrote:Does it help motivate you if I point out how much you stink?
I have come to detest smokers for a number of reasons but a big one is how much you stink. And it permeates the environment. It does not matter that you wash your hands if you have smoked on the way to work in your car it is all over your clothes and in your hair. After sitting next to you for more than 5 seconds I get to smell your stink. You hang your frickin' winter coat next to mine so mine can stink.
GAG.
While you just gag on cigarette smoke, I get hives because of peoples perfume (any laws agianst that yet?????). Just happened again over the weekend. Went into a bar and some person (can't tell who as there are some men colognes that I am allergic to also) had some "scent" on that caused my eyes to start swelling. Being someone who has lost his sence of smell I had no idea until the swelling started. Thankfully I carry benedril. My brother was with me and he "sniffed out" the offending person and we moved away from them.
There isn't much space for coats where I work. Besides they are the ones who stink, why the hell should I have to move my coat? Oh wait, I forgot, the world revolves around the smoker's ass, just as it has for years, my bad. The fuckers go out them come back and hang their coats right over mine (I don't take 15 smoke breaks a day as most of them do) irrespective of where I hang it. Selfish inconsiderate stinking assholes.
I get really sick of my rants being countered with perfume arguments. I don't disagree with perfume being an issue, but that's your issue. My issue is your (smokers) stinkin'-assed cigarettes and how you (smokers) reek. The fact that perfume is an issue does not take anything away from the issue of smokers stinking.
get really sick of my rants being countered with perfume arguments. I don't disagree with perfume being an issue, but that's your issue. My issue is your (smokers) stinkin'-assed cigarettes and how you (smokers) reek.
Your issue, my issue, whatever. I think we are just on opposite sides of the same coin. Smokers smell just as perfume wearers smell. difference is I have allergic reactions to perfume, do you to cigarette smoke smell?? Do you need to carry (pick your meds) as I do with benedril in order to keep from having your eyes puff up?
The fact that perfume is an issue does not take anything away from the issue of smokers stinking.
Never said it does, you just seem a little bit militant about it. Me, I carry my meds and move away from people who have perfume that triggers my allergies. You should find a new place for your coat.
Plenty of people stink for many reasons, smoking among them (likewise food eaten,lack of hygiene, colognes/perfumes, lack of washing clothes, etc.). Putting up with these smells is just one of the things we have to do to live together, sad but true.
As for 15 smoke breaks a day, if these are taken with the consent of your employer, and nonsmokers are expected to pick up the slack, I don't blame you for being upset. IMHO it sounds like it's time for your to look elsewhere for a job where your employer respects your work more. I have never worked anywhere where that many breaks were tolerated, and I think your employer is ridiculous.
Only a little bit militant oldr? Then I'm slacking. I will pick up the pace. As I have said before, I don't go around ranting like this with delete explicatives in the real world. It's nice that I get to blow off steam here.
I doubt I am allergic per se to smoke, but it causes my mucous membranes to swell and makes it difficult to breathe through my nose, and then a thin drainage begins, plus a raging headache. The after affects last for hours. It isn't anaphalaxis, but it isn't fun.
Yes big RR, we are expected to pick up the slack. It's why I seethe.
So I have made a decision. I am going to send in my resume to the competition. They will only hire smokers who will wear a patch while at work. They are not allowed to smoke and will be dismissed immediately if they do. They are not allowed to reek either. Hoohaw!
@meric@nwom@n wrote:
I doubt I am allergic per se to smoke, but it causes my mucous membranes to swell and makes it difficult to breathe through my nose, and then a thin drainage begins, plus a raging headache. The after affects last for hours. It isn't anaphalaxis, but it isn't fun.
There you go...
Blaming smokers for your physiological response to their smoke.
It's all relative; do you enjoy smoked fish? Smoked cheese? Grilling with Mesquite? Oak barrel wine or whiskey? Do you burn incense or sage?
Now, I'm around smoke and soot all day, and the best curative for it is: exercise!
When I take too much time away from the kickboxing mat, I'll hack after the first half hour and for a bit after the workout is over. This is a good thing. My lungs are getting a healthy clearing out and I feel great for the rest of the day. I'm really feeling thankful, that I have to bike to work. It's very beneficial, if you are exposed to nastiness, you can just coff it out. I'm sure this is why I haven't caught the whooping cough, that each one of my roommates has contracted.
I love garlic and we can roast a whole head of garlic and use it to butter toast for the two of us but I don't eat a lot of garlic if I'm going to work the next day because it is inconsiderate to stink in a confined space.
If only smokers had as much consideration, or self control. All of us would be better off.
yrs,
rubato
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I can't stand the stink of cigarette smoke, either.
Even in the times when I've been smoking myself, I was grossed out by being forced to run the gauntlet of ciggie smoke to get into or out of buildings, like when I was back in college.
I also recall having to sit next to a person or two in those years who just reeked extra bad of ciggie smoke - certain people seem to absorb it into their skin and it's just damned rank to have to breathe in the same space with them for 50 minutes during class.
I imagine it's quite likely that I created the same distress in others at times over the years, though I have always refrained from standing near doorways and smoking, even before it was outlawed in many places to do so.
Right now as I've been on a smoking stint for a couple of weeks, I've been careful to hang my coat in my office on the back of the door, instead of on the community coat rack. I also use a linen spray at least daily in my office.
Still, I am sensitive to the fact that I could still be offensive to my colleagues.
Back when I was non-salaried and didn't work tons of extra hours as a matter of course, it really pissed me off when the smokers took much more than their legally alloted breaks to feed their addiction. It's just not fair.
You are right to be pissed. I see most of your points. I find both cigarette smoke and excessive use of perfumes to be equally offensive, though one is certainly more toxic to most than the other. I would love to see cigarettes simply disappear from the commerce stream.
As they aren't likely to, I've got to increase my willpower and not fall back on them in times of stress. It's flat out stupid.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
If I could only change one single thing in history it would be the introduction of tobacco into western society. It really has caused a boatload of misery.
@meric@nwom@n wrote:If I could only change one single thing in history it would be the introduction of tobacco into western society. It really has caused a boatload of misery.
A very good choice for "the one thing to get rid of".
oldr_n_wsr wrote:I pick up my Chantix script tonight.
It worked well for Hen.
How much will it cost you O-n-W?
(Australia)
SMOKERS whose resolutions for quitting go out with a puff soon after January 1 are in line for some relief this year as a drug that curbs cravings is added to the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme.
Champix, which also helps reduce the symptoms associated with giving up cigarettes, was yesterday added to the PBS as part of a list of new drugs added to the Federal Government scheme, which makes listed drugs cheaper.
About 195,000 smokers are expected to use Champix this year, at an additional cost to the scheme of $76.3 million over four years, said the federal Minister for Health and Ageing, Nicola Roxon.
Champix will cost about $60 for a 12-week treatment and about $10 for pensioners and health care card holders. Patients will receive a subsidy for one course a year.
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