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How much will it cost you O-n-W?
The first week (where you still smoke and ramp up the dosage) was only $8. After that each month is $35 on my helath plan. My old company didn't cover it and it was $160/month. I went to HR and complained in that they would partially pay for smoking cessation (sp?) programs, but wouldn't give a dime to drugs that worked.

The company I worked for before that it cost $50 for a months treatment. I was a non smoker for 9 months up until they layed me off, then I started smoking again. Hopefully this time I won't have any setbacks.

Also going to AA to get me through a drinking problem but that's another story
Guess I'm not as wise as I should be. :?

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Thanks for that honesty there mate, shows a great deal of trust in us.

And me and Hen wish you all the best in succeeding!
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The drugs work oldr.

It was the easiest, most pain-free way of ceasing smoking that I have undertaken.

Until previous drugs, the side effect (felt by me at least) were minimal. When I tried to take Zyban the side effects were so confronting I gave up taking them after less than two weeks.
Bah!

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The only problem with AA is that the live meetings are generally composed of participants who smoke like chimneys to replace the addiction they're trying to cure themselves of at AA. It's all cool if you just stay inside during the breaks and don't hang about in the doorways before and after.

They have online meetings now, too, oldr - if you think that would be helpful to you.
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oldr_n_wsr wrote:
"... I was a non smoker for 9 months up until they layed me off, then I started smoking again. Hopefully this time I won't have any setbacks.

... "
That's a huge success. It proves that you can do it.

You'll make it.

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the trick is not caving when you get the out of the blue craving some time(s) down the line. That and the I can have just one moments (especially if it works once you'll think you can do it again... and again... etc)
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Some experiences are meant to be humbling.

IMO this is one of them.

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SMOKING accelerates mental decline and damages parts of the brain linked to dementia, an Australian study has found.

But there is good news for long-term smokers: quitting reverses the harmful effects on the brain.

The study assessed brain function using standard performance tests, matching the results to brain scans in 229 elderly smokers who were trying to give up and 98 non-smokers.

The research, repeated at six-monthly intervals for two years, was the first in the world to track changes in smokers' mental performance over a lengthy period.

It found the smokers, who were aged 68 and over, lost a disproportionate number of brain cells in regions important for memory and active thinking.

"For the first time it shows what we see with our memory tests is confirmed by changes in the brain," said Osvaldo Almeida, professor of geriatric psychiatry at the University of Western Australia.

The smokers who failed to quit slid into mental decline twice as fast as non-smokers, but "those who quit, don't decline faster than those who never smoked", said Professor Almeida, a consultant at the Royal Perth Hospital where the patients were recruited.

"It's a good thing for your brain to quit,'' he said. ''People who stop smoking, in terms of memory and cognitive function, do as well as people who never smoked.''

http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/wellbei ... 1an22.html
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Thanks for all your words. Quit day is sunday, up to 1mg of Chantix per day. First three days are 0.5mg per day then up to two .5mg pils a day then on quit day it's up to two 1mg pills a day.

Haven't had a drink in 2 and a half weeks and feeling good.

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Good work that man!!!
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Glad you get the support you need Older!

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oldr_n_wsr wrote:Thanks for all your words. Quit day is sunday, up to 1mg of Chantix per day. First three days are 0.5mg per day then up to two .5mg pils a day then on quit day it's up to two 1mg pills a day.

Haven't had a drink in 2 and a half weeks and feeling good.

Think of it as a roller-coaster; once you're moving you can't get off, just take in the ride, accept that things are going to happen for a while that will be a little different.


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Um, yea. That recovering means some people are going to complain about your recovery;

"Too fast/too slow, too hard/too soft, or too me/too you" ;)

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I think I may end up quitting tomorrow. The chantix has kicked in and there is no feeling when I do have a cigarette. Also no nic fit when I haven't had one in a few hours.

I could probably stop right now but I have 1/2 a pack left and hate to waste them at $10 a pack.

ETA
Plus they will help with breaking the physical habit of getting up every once in a while and going to have a smoke. Need widen the time between them.

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I have found in the past year that the biggest draw to smoking was the 'break' - I had coworkers who smoked, so I would join them, to get that 5 minutes away from my desk, which I would otherwise never leave.

I've learned that it can be really helpful to listen to those urges to get up from your desk, but to take a brisk brief walk instead - around the building or around the block, depending on the weather.

Keep up with the great efforts - we're all pulling for you! :D
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Walking around the building holds no appeal to me even when it's a pretty big building with a nice atrium.

So even though it's cold, I do enjoy the "outdoor' trip. Guess I'll keep it up "sans cigarette".

Unless I find some other "habit" to consume me.

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I find intravenous heroin helps pass the time O-n-W. :)
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Gob wrote:I find intravenous heroin helps pass the time O-n-W. :)
Well from what I've been reading in the news paper it is readily available here on Long Island.

ETA
4:30 hours since my last cig.
Last time I did that long I was either asleep, passed out or on a plane ride.

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:ok
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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Gob wrote:
SMOKING accelerates mental decline and damages parts of the brain linked to dementia, an Australian study has found.
James Hurley: When did you start smoking?
Donna Hayward: I smoke every once and a while. Helps relieve tension.
James Hurley: When did you get so tense?
Donna Hayward: When I started smoking.
- Twin Peaks (1990) (Life imitates art)

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