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A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:50 am
by MajGenl.Meade
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/oddnews/hig ... 46812.html
High school student sues parents to force them to pay for her college education

Rachel Canning is an 18-year-old senior at Morris Catholic High School in New Jersey. She is a cheerleader, lacrosse player, and honors student. Rachel is also gaining attention for an unusual lawsuit she has filed against her parents, Sean and Elizabeth Canning. As the Daily Record reports, Rachel is suing them for financial support and to “force them to pay for her college education.”

In papers filed at the court, Rachel maintains that her parents decided that on her 18th birthday, she would be cut off from them, “both financially and emotionally.” In the papers Rachel also said, “My parents have rationalized their actions by blaming me for not following their rules. They stopped paying my high school tuition to punish the school and me and have redirected my college fund, indicating their refusal to afford me an education as a punishment.”

In addition to this, she said her high school advised her to not return home after she alleged abuse. Morris Catholic President Michael St. Pierre, in a certification to the court said he witnessed, “some difficult meetings between Rachel and Mr. Canning.” Another school employee, Kathleen Smith, wrote that in October of last year, she heard Rachel’s mother call her, “a foul name and say she didn’t want to speak to her daughter again.”

The school, despite being owed over $4,000, will not kick Rachel out of school. They maintain that the parents should be and are on the hook for the payment. So how is Rachel able to afford an attorney if she can’t afford school? Her friend’s father, John Inglesino is funding the lawsuit, believing Rachel to be in the right. The Record reports that in his letter to the court, Inglesino wrote…

“Rachel is likeable, communicates exceptionally well and is highly motivated to attend and excel at a college appropriate for her. That is why my wife and I have decided to fund this lawsuit. We know that if Mr. and Mrs. Canning are not required to fulfill their legal obligations as parents, that Rachel’s ability to fulfill her potential will be greatly diminished.”

So what of the parents, Sean and Elizabeth Canning? They maintain they never told Rachel to move out. They also, “contend she had disciplinary problems at school last term, was suspended twice, ignored her curfew at home and bullied her younger sister.” Their attorney, Laurie Rush-Masuret, noted…

“Mr. and Mrs. Canning did not tell Rachel to move out; rather they advised her that she is welcome home so long as she abides by their rules under their roof, which is completely reasonable. However, Rachel decided that she does not want to live within her parents’ sphere of influence and voluntarily moved out, essentially emancipating herself. Obviously, she cannot decide she will no longer live within her parents’ sphere of influence and simultaneously seek payment from them for support…”

Sean Canning, who before retiring, was Lincoln Park police chief, told the Record, ““We love our child and miss her. This is terrible. It’s killing me and my wife. We have a child we want home. We’re not Draconian and now we’re getting hauled into court. She’s demanding that we pay her bills but she doesn’t want to live at home and she’s saying, ‘I don’t want to live under your rules.’” He also noted that the New Jersey Division of Child Protection and Permanency (DCP&P), “visited his home for about three hours last fall, found nothing amiss, determined that Rachel was “spoiled” and discontinued the investigation.” Additionally, they say Rachel’s college fund has not been withdrawn or re-allocated
Hmmm back in the day, I think that if I funded the lawsuit of one my 12th grade daughter's schoolfriends my wife would probably have the gumshoes out following me - just to make sure.

I don't understand how someone who has reached the age of majority (ha ha ho ho) can possibly have any grounds for demanding support of any kind for any reason whatsoever. What legal obligation does a parent have to a child after they come of age (ho ho ha ha)? They don't have any obligation to provide food, shelter or clothes or pay the cell phone charges or college either - do they?

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 1:31 pm
by TPFKA@W
What a delightful child. I certainly hope the parents sue her for support when they retire.
If she is an honor student she should certainly be spending her time applying for scholarships.
If she refuses to abide by their rules she is not entitled to their continued financial support since she has reached majority.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 4:24 pm
by Sue U
A little more straight reporting, from the original source, with emphases added:
A Morris Catholic High School honor student and athlete who claims her parents threw her out of their Lincoln Park home when she turned 18 has taken the highly unusual step of suing them for immediate financial support and to force them to pay for her college education.

Private high school senior Rachel Canning, a cheerleader and lacrosse player who has aspirations to be a biomedical engineer, filed a lawsuit last week in the Family Part of state Superior Court in Morristown that seeks a judge’s declaration that she is nonemancipated and dependent as a student on her parents for support.

Judge Peter Bogaard, sitting in Morristown, has scheduled a hearing for Tuesday. Rachel Canning’s lawyer, Tanya N. Helfand, will ask that parents Sean and Elizabeth Canning, who haven’t paid an outstanding $5,306 Morris Catholic tuition bill, be ordered to settle that debt, pay Rachel’s current living and transportation expenses, and commit an existing college fund to their daughter, who has received acceptance letters from several universities and has to make a decision this spring.

Since the alleged “abandonment” by her parents, Rachel has been living in Rockaway Township with the family of her best friend and fellow student Jaime Inglesino, whose father is attorney and former Morris County Freeholder John Inglesino. Inglesino is funding the lawsuit and hired attorney Helfand, who included in the lawsuit a request that the parents pay their daughter’s legal fees that so far total $12,597.

Sean Canning, a retired Lincoln Park police chief who currently works as Mount Olive’s township administrator, said his daughter’s representation of the facts is not accurate and he fears she is being “enabled” by well-intentioned but ill-informed people who include the Inglesinos. Sean Canning said that Rachel voluntarily left home in October and was never thrown out.

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The father said that he and his wife did stop paying the Morris Catholic tuition and have kept Rachel’s car because they paid for it. The father contended that Rachel moved out because she didn’t want to abide by simple household rules — be respectful, keep a curfew, return “borrowed” items to her two sisters, manage a few chores, and reconsider or end her relationship with a boyfriend the parents believe is a bad influence. <----------- betting dollars to donuts this is the real problem

“We’re heartbroken, but what do you do when a child says ‘I don’t want your rules but I want everything under the sun and you to pay for it?’ ” Canning said, adding that his daughter’s college fund is available to her and not withdrawn or re-allocated, as she has alleged.

In New Jersey, emancipation of a child “is a fact-sensitive analysis that looks at whether the child has moved beyond the sphere of influence and responsibility exercised by a parent and has obtained an independent status of his or her own,” Helfand said in court papers.

The mere fact that a child has turned 18 is not an automatic reason to stop financial support, according to Helfand and several longtime family attorneys in Morris County. A key court decision in the state specifies that, “A child’s admittance and attendance at college will overcome the rebuttable presumption that a child may be emancipated at age 18.”

Prominent family-law attorneys Sheldon Simon and William Laufer both called the lawsuit highly unusual and Laufer said he has seen nothing like it in 40 years of practice.

“A child is not emancipated until they’re on their own,” Simon said. “Even if a child and the parents don’t get along, that doesn’t relieve the parents of their responsibility.” Laufer noted that under New Jersey law, a child can still be declared nonemancipated even if there is a hiatus between high school graduation and college.

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By the way, these people are well-connected and are not dopes. John Inglesino is an attorney, a prominent GOP leader and good buddy of Gov. Christie.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:13 pm
by Long Run
I wonder how New Jersey's law on emancipation compares to most other states. Here, I am pretty sure the support obligation stops at age 18 -- unless the parents are divorced and the decree says one or both have to keep paying through college (a disparity the courts have found constitutional). It could be that the immediate reaction to the daughter's legal action is based on the assumption that most places are not like New Jersey and do not have a delayed emancipation rule.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:02 pm
by Big RR
By the way, these people are well-connected and are not dopes. John Inglesino is ... good buddy of Gov. Christie
Not dopes? Could have fooled me.

Seriously Sue, do you think this suit has any chance? They may have some liability for her high school bill (especially if they signed anything when she enrolled), but I have seen no orders to pay for college absent a divorce (which is a pretty special situation). It seems she got the "so long as you live under my roof.." speech a lot of us got and tried to call their bluff. Not sure why Inglesino is tying himself into this--somehow it hardly seems the republican way for the state to require a parent to pay for the college of an estranged child. My bet is that the judge will order some sort of mediation and if that doesn't work (but it may well work), the suit will be dismissed.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:57 pm
by Sue U
Well, I try to stay as far away from family law as I can, but from what I do know, the law here in NJ is pretty solicitous of the interests of the child, even one who's 18, especially while they're still in high school. I think the first question is whether the young lady is properly considered "emancipated," and both sides seem to be saying she is not; the parents just want her to be better behaved and also break up with her boyfriend (like that's gonna happen as long as they're pushing). As to disposition of the college fund, there's probably some sort of promissory estoppel theory with a two-part test that applies.

But as a practical matter, the judge will almost certainly refer the case to mediation first.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:42 pm
by Gob
Pah!! No photo in the article. Is she hot or not?

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:48 pm
by Joe Guy
Gob wrote:Pah!! No photo in the article. Is she hot or not?
No... She's a dog... :D

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Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:12 pm
by Big RR
here's probably some sort of promissory estoppel theory with a two-part test that applies.
Can a minor who cannot legally enter into an agreement claim promissory estoppel? I'd bet its a stretch at best. Oh, she might claim that she didn't apply for scholarships and/or work to save money for college in reliance on the parent's promise to pay, but her parents might well counter with the argument that their agreement to pay for college was contingent on a few conditions including thing a like keeping up her GPA, and the other things they wanted. It would be interesting to see what a court would do, but I would be surprised if a court ordered the parents to pay for her college and her out of household living expenses--from what I understand that would be a big change in the current state of the law. Of course, if the "college fund" includes money from grandparents or others, it might be a different case. But I'm with you, I try and avoid family law cases as well (although I've been drawn into a couple of support cases).

If it goes to mediation, one would hope cooler heads prevail. Right now both sides seem to be acting pretty badly; the parents need to consider what effect their edicts might have on their daughter's future, and the daughter needs to consider the same thing. Granted, I don't know the full story, but throwing that much away to prove you are "right" is asinine. I had friends whose parents cut them off without a penny while they were in college for pretty much the same sort of reasons (usually moving in with a significant other), and in one case child and parents had no contact for the rest of the parent's lives. Sometimes there is no middle ground, but when there is you must see it and be willing to move toward it.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 11:42 pm
by Gob
When Judge Peter Bogaard read an expletive-laden and vicious answerphone message left by Rachel Canning, from Lincoln Park, New Jersey, to her mother, Elizabeth, he said: 'Have you ever in your experience seen such gross disrespect for a parent? I don’t see it in my house.’

The judge, sitting at Morris County court added that Rachel had given her mom and dad, Sean: ‘The proverbial f you’.
Rachel, who is suing her parents for ‘abandoning’ her has made sensational claims that her mom calling her ‘fat’ and ‘porky’ led to her suffering bulimia and that her former police chief father dad used to get her drunk and kiss her inappropriately.
Phone message left for Liz Canning from Rachel at July 2, 2013 1:18pm, submitted to Superior Court of New Jersey
'Hi mom just to let you know you're a real f**king winner aren't you you think you're so cool and you think you caught me throwing up in the bathroom after eating an egg frittatta, yeah sorry that you have problems now and you need to harp on mine because i didn't and i actually took a s*** which i really just wanna s*** all over your face right now because it looks like that anyway, anyway i f***ing hate you and um I've written you off so don't talk to me, don't do anything I'm blocking you from just about everything, have a nice life, bye mom'
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Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:12 am
by Joe Guy
Judge rules against New Jersey teen suing parents for support

MORRIS PLAINS, N.J. - A New Jersey couple does not have to pay for their 18-year-old daughter's college education, a judge ruled Tuesday, CBS New York reports.

Judge Peter Bogaard denied Rachel Canning's request $600 a month in support, high school tuition back pay, college tuition and legal fees.
But he said he would revisit the issue of college tuition at the end of April, about a month after her financial aid forms are due.

Earlier her lawyer said the parents of the high school honor student should have sought help for their daughter rather than cutting her off financially for misbehaving, the teen's lawyer said in a court hearing Tuesday.

Canning is suing her parents, whom she alleges were abusive. She is seeking tuition money for her final high school semester and college.

During Tuesday's hearing, Rachel Canning barely made eye contact with her parents, CBS 2′s Alice Gainer reported.

The Morris Catholic High School cheerleader has been staying with a friend's family since the beginning of November. Her friend's father, attorney and former Morris County Freeholder John Inglesino, is bankrolling the lawsuit.

"In the four months that Rachel had been with the Inglesinos, these people have not called her, they have not come to see her, they have not sent a penny to her or to her benefactors," Rachel Canning's attorney, Tanya Helfand, told the judge.

"Any reasonable, caring parent would be so devastated and embarrassed by this situation, and they would reach out to the Inglesinos and they would reach out to their daughter, either through therapy, working with the Inglesinos to try and wrangle in this situation and make it right," Helfand said.

Her parents say Rachel Canning left their home on her own. Her father is former Lincoln Park Police Chief Sean Canning.

"To be clear, my clients never abandoned nor abused their child, and they have asked her to come home," their attorney, Laurie Rush-Masuret, told reporters just before entering court.

Rush-Masuret said Rachel Canning did not want to follow house rules, including breaking up with her boyfriend whom they considered trouble.

Judge Peter Bogaard noted that Rachel Canning's behavior over the past year has been in question -- one or two school suspensions, drinking, losing her captaincy on the cheerleading squad and being kicked out of the campus ministry.

Rachel Canning, 18, is suing her parents in Morris County, N.J., on claims that they kicked her out of the house and refused to fund her college education. (Credit: CBS 2)

"What kind of parents would the Cannings be if they didn't set down some strict rules?" Bogaard said.

In court papers, Rachel Canning alleged her parents abandoned her when she turned 18 and have now refused to pay for her to go to college - even though she has received acceptance letters from several universities.

But her father told a different story.

"I know Rachel is a) a good kid, b) an incredibly rebellious teen, and she's getting some terrible information," Sean Canning said.

He claimed Rachel ran away from home in November because she did not want to follow house rules.

"Living in our house, there's rules," he said. "There's minor chores. There's curfews - when I say curfew, it's usually after 11 o'clock at night."

Inglesino is funding the lawsuit, telling CBS New York it is the only way the bright and focused teen will be able to go to a college appropriate for her to become a biomedical engineer.

Rachel Canning, who has a $20,000 scholarship, said the University of Vermont is her first choice.

But Sean Canning said he is not refusing to pay for her college education.

"I reject the whole question on that -- the whole premise," he said. "We have a college fund that's available to her - there's no doubt about that. But it's the equivalent ... of going shopping at a high-end store and sending somebody the bill."

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Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 12:17 am
by Jarlaxle
Give her the money if she immediately has a tubal ligation. She gets her money, the gene pool gets chlorinated.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:24 am
by rubato
It is not impossible that someone with her nasty personality appeared out of nowhere in the last year of high school.

It is just very, very unlikely.

yrs,
rubato

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:45 am
by Econoline
Good point.

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 7:04 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Yep, if I invited a girlie who looks like that to live in my house and paid for her legal fees, my wife would first kill me and then kill me again to make sure. I don't think she'd buy any "I'm just trying to help a worthy person" story and pitch right in. Women have such suspicious minds! :o

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 2:06 am
by Gob
A US high school student who sued her parents for financial support has returned home, a lawyer says.

Rachel Canning's return is not contingent on any financial or other considerations, family lawyer Angelo Sarno said in a statement

Re: A girl named sue

Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:48 pm
by Big RR
One interesting thing I read in the paper re her going home is that her lawyer tried to get the judge to appoint a guardian for her (even though she is over 18) so the court would be assured that any withdrawal of the pending lawsuit would be in her interest and not because she was influenced by her parents. The court (rightly IMHO) turned that down.

Let's hope this is the end of the situation, but given the tabloid media, I'll bet it's not.