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Name a woman's job
Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:24 pm
by Gob
Channel Ten game show Family Feud is facing fierce criticism after suggesting jobs for women commonly include hairdressing, reception work and domestic duties like washing clothes and doing the dishes.
During an episode broadcast on Wednesday night, host Grant Denyer asked contestants to "name a woman's job".
The game show's format pits two families against each to other name the top eight most popular responses to survey questions posed to 100 Australians.
The correct answers to the question on Wednesday night's episode included cooking, washing clothes, cleaning, nursing, doing the dishes, hairdressing and domestic duties.
When asked to name a man's job, the top responses were builder, plumber, mechanic, carpenter and being a tradesman in general.
Viewers reacted angrily on social media, with many branding the show "misogynistic".
"It is not a woman's job to do the dishes or clean or do the domestic duties in general," one said. "Women can do whatever the f--- they want, not just what they've been told to do throughout history."
RMIT University's deputy dean of media and communication Lisa French questioned the integrity of the game show's "surveying" procedure to determine the most popular answers.
"Where did they find these 100 people? I don't think I know anyone who would respond in that way," she said.
"Could it just be a ploy for publicity?"
Associate Professor French said the program showed sexism was "alive and well" in Australia.
"When the answer that the most popular women's jobs are 'washing, cooking and cleaning' arises, it makes it clear that sexism is alive and well, and it highlights that women are still being demeaned," she said.
"It oppresses men as much as it does women for jobs to be typecast according to gender ... what we want is freedom of choice, and for those choices to be respected."
Network Ten has been contacted for comment.
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Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 1:57 am
by Econoline
In other news, Dr. Emmett Lathrop "Doc" Brown, of Hill Valley, California, recently reported the theft of his prized DeLorean DMC-12 sports car while travelling in Australia....
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:09 am
by Joe Guy
I wonder why vacuuming isn't on the list?
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 3:02 am
by BoSoxGal
Because it falls into 'cleaning'?
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 5:42 am
by Gob
Blow.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 11:23 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Hypersensitivity much? It is rather dense of the indignant female persons not to understand that the motivation for such answers Is not sexism per se but is a commentary upon reality, which has perhaps been conditioned by sexism (if they must shrill about it).
If the question is regarded as asking - "what are jobs that women typically do?" then the answers are obviously reflective of researched reality. In the main, it is women who cook - especially if they are living a single/partnered/married life which is erm..... all women.
"Name a woman's job" does not inspire me to shout out "Bus conductor" or "Brain surgeon". Even though I am fully aware that such occupations may be filled by women, the fact is that they are not by any means the "typical" examples of those occupations. Well, bus conductor almost.
Similarly, "Name a man's job" does not automatically generate "looking after the children" or "cleaning", though men can and do both (though not voluntarily in many cases). I clean - I cook - I do the dishes (always have - it was either wash or dry in my house as a child) etc. But even so, I would not think to name those as a "man's job" since I know that men don't think of those jobs as being "theirs".
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:10 pm
by Crackpot
I' m personally appalled "Barefoot & Pregnant" didn't make the list.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 12:20 pm
by rubato
Ratings must have slipped so they're trying to whip up some bullshit controversy to pump them back up again.
People are SO easily manipulated.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 2:36 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
When the answer that the most popular women's jobs
How can a college professor fail to understand the difference between the words "popular response" and "popular women's jobs"?
Obviously, 'learning English' wasn't popular in her particular case
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:56 pm
by TPFKA@W
Personally I wish nursing was strictly a "woman's job" because the vast majority of men who do it do such a half assed job. Seriously, you gentlemen suck at so many things on that list.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:59 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Psst - keep it up guys! It's working!
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:42 pm
by BoSoxGal
I've known men who were meticulous about housecleaning - though only a few, admittedly.
I blame the mothers who don't teach their sons to cook, clean, do laundry - yet school their daughters in those skills and the expectation that those same daughters will be expected to provide those 'services' to a future life partner.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:54 pm
by Big RR
I don't entirely agree; certainly there are some men (and even some women) who have never been taught even the most rudimentary of skills in this area, but in most cases it's not an absence of skill but an absence of interest. Especially in the housekeeping chores, the only people I have ever known who were (anal retentive) fanatics in this area are women; most men don't really give a damn if the bed is made every morning or if there are dishes in the sink when they go to work (or at least don't give enough of a damn to do something about it themselves). Certainly there have to be men who could fit this stereotype, but I have never met one. when I lived alone my apartment was always clean, but the bed was rarely made (unless my parents were coming over), and I was just as likely to have clothes hanging in my laundry room (my apartment had a washer and dryer) as being put away in the closets and dressers, etc.
The same is true for cooking; I have a friend who lives on his own and is content to eat prepared dinners or takeout rather than cook, even though he can cook and has done so for parties. To him it's just not worth the bother.
Most people can cook and clean; it's just not a priority to some. Face it, most of these chores can be easily learned, it's not exactly rocket science.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:14 pm
by BoSoxGal
I gather I didn't effectively communicate my point, which is that in my opinion most men are still raised with the expectation that housework isn't their obligation.
Of course anyone can learn the skills - although, really good cooking is a bit more of a challenge.
I'm capable of meticulous housekeeping - being a Molly Maid was my first real job at 15 - but I let my house get dirty and leave my bed unmade and rarely cook beyond the simplest meals except when entertaining, too.
Even the most recent studies show that women still bear the brunt of housework and child care in the majority of marriages/cohabitation arrangements. Even if folks don't keep to exacting standards of housekeeping (and recent studies indicate that to be the case), there is still going to be laundry, toilets to clean, dishes to wash, etc. At least if you believe the 'studies', it's still mostly women doing these things, whether done well or not.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:21 pm
by Gob
What's the point of having a woman about the place if you're going to have to clean up yourself? You don't buy a dog and bark do you?
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:36 pm
by Gob
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:39 pm
by BoSoxGal
Sure, that's the way many men still actually think - all kidding aside - even among younger generations.
And the plummeting marriage rate is in part because many women have come to realize that, in an age when they can support themselves and have babies without husbands, there's not a whole lot of benefit to having an adult child to care for in addition to actual child-age children.
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 9:47 pm
by Lord Jim
How did the venerable occupations of "prostitute" and 'stripper" not make the list?
(And "hairdresser" should have been number one on the "Name the Occupations Of Gay Men" list, right ahead of "Broadway Show Choreographer"...
)
Kelly is a good cook, (due mostly to the influence of her father; The Queen Mum has many wonderful qualities, but she can't even boil Top Ramen properly) but I am an
excellent cook...
So I do the lion's share of the cooking...
As for the "housekeeping" neither one of us is going to be mistaken for Martha Stewart, so we're fortunate to be able to afford some help with that....
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:45 am
by Guinevere
To quote an 80s bumper sticker:
A woman's place is in the House and the Senate!
I love to cook and bake and I'm very very good at both. It's a creative outlet for me. And after 20 years with out a dishwasher I don't even mind doing the dishes now (although if I still had to do them by hand I think I'd cry). But I cannot abide housecleaning. I don't have the time or patience. Luckily, I can afford someone to clean and my Swede also doesn't mind cleaning and will help. He's also a pretty good cook and enjoys it most of the time.
My boyz both have house chores at this point (8 and 10) and the youngest loves to cook (he has been going to Chef camp the last three summers). The older has also learned to make a few things and is especially talented at cheesy scrambled eggs, which he will make for the whole family. They will *not* grow up to be men who cannot take care of themselves!
Re: Name a woman's job
Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:35 pm
by rubato
bigskygal wrote:I've known men who were meticulous about housecleaning - though only a few, admittedly.
I blame the mothers who don't teach their sons to cook, clean, do laundry - yet school their daughters in those skills and the expectation that those same daughters will be expected to provide those 'services' to a future life partner.
I had to explain the finer points of laundry to many years worth of incoming college students. You will be amazed to learn how many believe that the capacity of a washing machine is "all you cram into it". And when that technique fails they blame the machine.
yrs,
rubato
