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To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2010 9:35 pm
by Gob
The fight against clothes line bans


By Tom Geoghegan BBC News Magazine

For decades, the clothes line has had an image problem in the US but, ahead of a rally to highlight the benefits of natural drying, is it about to be reclaimed?

There is a new protest movement sweeping the US and at its heart are two sticks and a piece of string.

Upon the humble clothes line, a battle line has been drawn that embodies a uniquely American clash of ideas about class, liberty and the environment.

Rules imposed by community associations and landlords forbid tens of millions of home owners to dry their washing outside because, they say, it's unsightly and even lowers property prices.

But a number of clothes line rebels have risked legal action by disobeying these rules, saying it is the duty of Americans to reduce their carbon footprint and leave their energy-hungry tumble dryers idle.

This Sunday their supporters will make their feelings known by holding a rally in Concord, New Hampshire to promote line drying.

These unlikely dissenters come in all ages and from all backgrounds. After moving to Witney Ridge in Pennsylvania nearly three years ago, Deborah Brensinger, a 55-year-old nurse, immediately began hanging her clothes in her back yard.

"Our government is trying to encourage working with the environment and doing things to cut down electricity, yet here's something totally free.

"I get to see my neighbours, it's clean and it smells good. It's a contemplative practice. I don't rush it, I enjoy it. It relieves stress. You can do it leisurely at your own pace, in a world that's so fast-paced."

Wei Wang a 49-year-old mother-of-three in Maryland, is continuing to hang out her washing, despite the threat of legal action.

"Energy savings and reducing pollution is more important, so I think I should stand up and fight back. I grew up in China and I was taught by my mother to use this method all the time.

"I've lived in Europe too, and it's only Americans that don't like clothes lines."

She says she checked her neighbours had no objections, and the line can't be seen from the street. But after the threat of legal action from her association, the mother-of-three now dries her five loads of washing a week on drying racks around her home, much to her annoyance.

"Everyone thinks people do whatever they want in their back yards. If I went out there in a bikini, it wouldn't matter but hanging my clothes out does. It doesn't make sense."

Mrs Brensinger is one of 60 million Americans living in about 300,000 communities governed by home-owning associations, where living in a flat, mobile home or even detached house, means accepting regulations on the appearance of homes and gardens.

The majority of these associations ban or restrict the use of clothes lines but, with a mindful eye on energy consumption, six states have fought back.

Florida, Utah, Maine, Vermont, Colorado and Hawaii have passed laws restricting the rights of housing authorities to stop residents from using clotheslines, and several other states including Pennsylvania are considering similar bills.
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Australian anti-nuclear advocate Helen Caldicott spent 18 years living in the US.

"Tumble drying is absolutely unnecessary. They can hang their clothes out in summer and by the furnace in the basement in winter. But they are being brainwashed that they need to machine dry.

"Part of it is also that they don't want to be looking at Mrs Brown's underwear. I suppose that prudery comes from the Puritans."

The pro-clothesline movement's champion is Alexander Lee, the 36-year-old founder of Project Laundry List, an organisation based in Vermont that campaigns for the so-called right to dry. He says its supporters are drawn from all social groups and backgrounds, uniting "libertarians and environmentalists, Christian mothers and radical homeowners".

When a college student in 1995, one statement uttered by a visiting anti-nuclear lecturer, Helen Caldicott, inspired him: "If we all did things like hang out our clothes, we could shut down the nuclear industry."

This energy-saving message forms the central plank of his campaign. Official figures say that tumble dryers guzzle 6% of household electricity, second only to fridges, but Lee estimates the actual figure to be three times higher. He says that if one in three Americans started line drying for five months of the year, 2.2m tonnes of CO2 would have been prevented from entering the atmosphere by 2020.

"The movement is increasing because we have these three problems that are converging - the energy crisis, the climate crisis and the personal finance crisis. We believe that it's a patriotic duty to conserve energy. There should be a victory clothes line at the White House."


His campaign outlines other reasons to support line drying - good exercise, nice-smelling clothes, saving $25 (£16) a month in electricity bills, avoiding fire hazards and even mood-improving. And then there's also his aesthetic admiration for the clothes line, "its Gestalt, its organic beauty, its simple functionality, the colourful panorama dancing on the line".

British film maker Stephen Lake has travelled around the US, speaking to people affected by these regulations. The 24-year-old, who writes and directs a film on the subject, called Drying For Freedom, out early next year, says: "If a buyer goes down a neighbourhood and they see clothes hanging on a line, they would question the lifestyle that they would be buying into, because it might suggest that person can't afford a dryer.

"These communities are based around setting a neutral aesthetic, so that every house in the street does not suggest anything about the person inside. The English middle class would probably not understand that."

A few associations in the UK also restrict line drying, and many British people would endorse the view that clothes flapping in the wind can look unsightly. But it doesn't have the same stigma in the UK, where only 45% of households own a tumble dryer, compared with 79% in the US.

For many Americans, clothes lines are an unwanted reminder of a more frugal age, says Dave Rapaport, senior director of corporate consciousness at Seventh Generation, a firm that sells eco-friendly household products.

"Hanging clothes was the norm prior to the advent of the suburban ideal of modern living in the 1950s. Partly driven by the need to get women back out in the workforce after World War II, partly the need to sell electricity and the appliances being invented to use it, and partly by a idealised notion of progress, clotheslines became a symbol of the life people were leaving behind."
Tumble dryers

* 79% of American households have a tumble dryer, compared to 45% in the UK and 4% in Italy
* 20% of Americans live in homes subject to clothes line bans
* It usually costs at least $100 to run a dryer for one year
* Some people have reported a 50% drop in electricity bills when they go 'cold turkey' on tumble drying

Sources: Project Laundry List, Energy Information Administration, Defra
He can sense that belief now being slowly eroded, not just because of energy concerns, but by a desire for simplicity, the aesthetic appeal of line drying and a nostalgic return to traditional family chores.

And in the same way that many Americans have embraced the reusable shopping bag, he believes they could learn to love line drying again.

But there are many who say they shouldn't.

Frank Rathbun is spokesman for the Community Associations Institute, which represents tens of thousands of associations nationwide. Most of them do restrict the use of clothes lines, he says, but for good reason.

"More often than not, the rules governing associations were put in place by developers and builders when the communities were being built.

One home-owning association claimed the sight of washing lines could reduce neighbouring property values by up to 15%. But the National Association of Realtors says it's not possible to put a value on this effect. A spokeswoman said that clothes lines were among the biggest sources of complaints among homeowners, in a recent survey, but the impact depended on neighbourhood norms. An area with a high number might leave a less negative impression than just one in a different area, depending on the buyer's expectations and values. She said: "The issue just underscores the fact that many things affect a property value - the home's condition, amenities in relation to other homes in the area, and the neighbourhood itself."

"Regardless of the issue, appearance and kerb appeal have a direct impact on property values and the sale of properties. I think it's safe to say that most associations have kept these rules in place for those very reasons."

Many people are attracted by the these communities because of the rules governing how they look, he says, and in the same way that many residents don't want to open their curtains - front or back - to see rubbish or an abandoned car, they might not want to see a bunch of laundry hanging on a clothesline either. The same rules prohibit statues, fountains and motor boats.

A national survey in 2007 indicated overwhelming opposition among residents to state laws preempting association rules on clotheslines, he says, suggesting that the way some state lawmakers have overturned these restrictions on line drying highlights a more fundamental issue about the collective right of homeowners in private communities to establish the rules for their own neighbourhoods.


In 2008, a man was shot dead in Verona, Massachusetts, during a dispute apparently over a clothes line. Police said the neighbours were arguing after one told the other to stop hanging his laundry outside.

"It's also important to remember that homeowners in associations have a contractual obligation to abide by rules that have been put in place to preserve the character of the community, protect property values and meet the established expectations of residents in that community.

"If a large percentage of owners really want to change a particular rule, they can probably make that happen."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11417677

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:15 am
by tyro
Give me the outdoors clothes line.

For one reason, my wife thinks she needs to put this stink-rag called “fabric bounce” into the drier, or maybe it’s called puke in a costly package, but I so much prefer air dried clothes.

We (she) puts the summertime laundry on a fold up device that our neighbours can’t even see. Does the job and doesn’t smell like floral vomit.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:24 am
by @meric@nwom@n
We have a huge screened in back porch and there are 2 clothes lines there. I hang out as much as I can, some things are just more convenient tumble dried due to needing ironed if they aren't. Most things work out well hanging 'out' as it were.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:47 am
by Jarlaxle
I don't use a clothesline...tried it once & it was a catastrophe. I live in the woods and would prefer clothes NOT covered in dust & pollen.

Tyro: most companies that make dryer sheets (including Bounce) make unscented sheets...I use them exclusively.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:54 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
My wife hangs outside the clothes whenever she can. She even hangs them out down the basement when she can't do it outside. But she also uses the drier.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:48 pm
by kristina
My [parents aways had clotheslines strung up between the ceiling joists (?) in the cellar, next to the washing machine and dryer. Sheets and towels would get a tumble to get the wrinkles out, and then would get hung to dry. Most everything else just got hung on the lines.

I hang some things up in the house, as we live in a very dusty town and an outside clothesline would result in clothes as dirty after washing as they were before!

As for dryer sheets...eww on the scented ones, and why bother with the unscented? What do they actually DO?

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:17 pm
by dales
Those handy-dandy dryer sheets are said to eliminate static cling.

My mum always had a washer/dryer that is until after 1955.

My grandmum used a clothes line.

I lived in an apt house that had a 120 volt dryer and drying clothes took hours and lotsa quarters. :?

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:40 pm
by Gob
Things you never thought you'd see: part 12.

Tyro and Jarl swapping laundry tips. :ok :lol: :fu

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:41 pm
by Jarlaxle
As for dryer sheets...eww on the scented ones, and why bother with the unscented? What do they actually DO?
They minimize static--as someone who wears 65/35 polyester/cotton work pants, I can say the difference is DRAMATIC, especially in the winter! They also make things dry a bit faster; they make the fabric repel water. (So don't use them when drying towels.)

Gob: what's the big deal? I've been doing my own laundry since I was about 13 years old.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 11:05 pm
by kristina
Ah...I see. I wonder if it would keep me from getting shocked by my car door on dry cold days in the winter?

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:28 am
by tyro
So called “static cling” is really an indication that you over dried your laundry.

I had enough years as a bachelor to know to take the clothes out of the drier before they are totally bone dry.

It saves on what ever you use to run a drier and it save on buying those silly (sometimes stinky, I asked the wife and she maintains that the stinky ones are all that she can find) bounce things.

I love wrinkles in my clothes, it helps to detract from the ones in my skin.

My first discovery as a young man taking care of his own laundry was the totally pointless existence of the iron.

I wonder how much energy we could save if everyone did away with their iron.

Years ago, it was expected that shirts were starched. Is there anyone still starching shirts? NO, of course not and yet a generation was held captive in believing that shirts – especially the collar – were starched.

Same thing about the iron, it’s just taking a bit longer for that to be acknowledged.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:53 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I haven't done laundry since I've been married (26 years and counting).

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 7:56 pm
by Gob
oldr_n_wsr wrote:I haven't done laundry since I've been married (26 years and counting).
My kinda guy!

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 8:33 pm
by kristina
Hen, did you hear that?

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 12:58 am
by Jarlaxle
Then you have no right to bitch if it's not done the way you want it done!

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 1:31 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I never bitch about how she does the laundry. She started hanging out the clothes when we were first starting out and didn't have much money. She continues to this day.

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:37 am
by loCAtek
Tried something new: Shrinkage on purpose!

I'd found the perfect hoodie for the BF's birthday present; with 'US Navy' in graffiti font on the back. Perfect for PT, and civy attire...

BUT!

Could only find it in XXL (d'oh) he's big and broad shouldered, but not that big. Not having much choice, I bought it anyway, and went online searching for fabric treatments. Luckily, cotton and cotton blends can be shrunk!
Turns out all it takes is heat, and lots of it.

Most recommendations say: wash and dry the article on 'high', and then finish with hot ironing. I wanted to go one step further, by boiling the sweater, maybe. Instead, I washed it on 'Super High' by sticking it the dishwasher ...twice! Then hung it on a broomstick through the sleeves, in the bathroom, so I could monitor the fabrics reaction. (After all this, I didn't want it to shrink too much!) Three days of slow drying, showed it was shrinking in a controlled manner, and I never did need to iron it.

Comes time for gifting, and it fit like a glove!

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Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:44 am
by rubato
tyro wrote:So called “static cling” is really an indication that you over dried your laundry.
... "
Its an indication that you goofed and bought some nasty synthetic cloth.

yrs,
rubato

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:35 am
by Jarlaxle
Yeah, because cotton is totally impervious to static cling!

Are you drunk or just fucking stupid?

Re: To dry, or not to dry, that is the question.

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:25 am
by Gob
Both?