So, I Took Tati To See "Kingsman"....

[Lord Jim]

When she was off from school on President's Day...

(I didn't think it was age appropriate for Jimmy... too much cussing and sexual innuendo...)

I have to say that I'm happy that at 15, my daughter still enjoys spending time with her Old Man...(action, fantasy, and science fiction movies are still "our thing"... )

But none of that heartwarming stuff has anything to do with the point I wanted to make here...

The point I want to make relates to the movie...

The first half hour or so, when 'Eggsy' Unwin ( Taron Egerton) is mucking about with his working class thuggish mates, there should have been subtitles on the screen...

That lower class English accent is as thick as a brick of cheddar cheese...

I could barely understand a word they were saying...they might as well have been speaking French...

And I wasn't alone in noticing this; as I was talking to Tati about it while we were leaving the theater, several other people walked up to us to agree with me...

So, a word to the wise for future film makers:

If you absolutely must have this kind of lower class quasi-Engish dialect in your movie, at least have the courtesy to provide subtitles...

[Joe Guy]

I ran part of your post through a translator for our British friends. The following is a Cockney Rhyming Slang translation....

the bloody point I wanna make relates ter the chuffin' movie...

the Damien Hirst Ca and Calf 'our or so, chicken pen 'eggsy' unwin ( taron egerton) is muckin' abaht wif 'is workin' Bo-le and Glass thuggish china plates, there should 'ave been subtitles on the screen...

that lower Bo-le and Glass english accent is as thick as a brick of cheddar John Cleese...

i could barely understand a Dicky Bird they were sayin'...they might as 'eaven and 'ell 'ave been speakin' french...

and I wasn't Jack Jones in noticin' this; as I was talkin' ter tati abaht it while we were leavin' the thea-ter, several ovver people walked up ter us ter agree wif me...

so, a Dicky Bird ter the wise for future film makers:

if ya absolutely must 'ave this kind of lower Bo-le and Glass quasi-engish dialect in your movie, at least 'ave the courtesy ter provide subtitles...

[Lord Jim]

Yes, it was very much like that...

[oldr_n_wsr]

Yet another reason not to go to the movies.

[MajGenl.Meade]

"your thing" LJ - with a 15 year old?

“Kingsman: The Secret Service ends with newly minted Kingsman agent Eggsy having anal sex with a princess after blowing Barack Obama’s head off.”

I must be on the wrong planet. (Not that I've not been told that before now!)

Or was that review just a joke?

[Lord Jim]

I was surprised by the last shot of the movie... (though that description is a big exaggeration; it's just a gratuitous shot of her naked derriere; just one of many odd things in this movie)

We went to see it because the TV promos looked good and it's part of the Marvel franchise, (We've enjoyed all their other movies and TV shows; Iron Man, Captain America, The Avengers, Agents of SHEILD, etc.) but I have to say this certainly wasn't their best effort...

Some decent scenes, but also some real weirdness...in addition to thousands of innocent (though mentally controlled by the bad guys) people having their heads explode (including Obama's) in what I believe was supposed to be some sort of artsy scene, there's also a massacre in a fundamentalist church, (probably a liberal director's fantasy) and Samuel L. Jackson plays the Uber Villain with a strange lisp...

This movie was so quirky I got the feeling it was more aiming for "cult film" then a general audience, but it was released as a big budget action film...

[Guinevere]

From this review, I decide it was more "Pulp Fiction" than "Casino Royale" and it moved down on my "to see" list:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02 ... .html?_r=0

Excerpt:

But if ever there was a semi-entertaining movie that sabotages itself with tastelessness and misogyny, this is it.

Where might "Kingsman" lose you? You may get twinges of doubt when debris from a missile explosion (set specifically in "the Middle East") bounces off the ground to form the opening credits. The concern may grow as bodies accumulate with the scantest notice or reflection or when the African American villain (Samuel L. Jackson) serves McDonalds at an opulent dinner. And you will, possibly, lose any remaining faith by the time Firth's agent slaughters a congregation full of frenzied churchgoers to the tune of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird."

By the time the film settles on one of its final images — a woman's naked rear, offered to the hero she has just met — any spryness in "Kingsman" has emphatically left the building, leaving a sexist stink behind it.

[oldr_n_wsr]

a woman's naked rear

Add boobies and I am there.

[Lord Jim]

Firth's agent slaughters a congregation full of frenzied churchgoers to the tune of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird."

Yeah, that was a very strange choice of music for a very strange scene...

[Bicycle Bill]

From this review, I decide it was more "Pulp Fiction" than "Casino Royale" and it moved down on my "to see" list:

http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/02 ... .html?_r=0

Excerpt:

But if ever there was a semi-entertaining movie that sabotages itself with tastelessness and misogyny, this is it.

Where might "Kingsman" lose you? You may get twinges of doubt when debris from a missile explosion (set specifically in "the Middle East") bounces off the ground to form the opening credits. The concern may grow as bodies accumulate with the scantest notice or reflection or when the African American villain (Samuel L. Jackson) serves McDonalds at an opulent dinner. And you will, possibly, lose any remaining faith by the time Firth's agent slaughters a congregation full of frenzied churchgoers to the tune of Lynyrd Skynyrd's "Free Bird."

By the time the film settles on one of its final images — a woman's naked rear, offered to the hero she has just met — any spryness in "Kingsman" has emphatically left the building, leaving a sexist stink behind it.

Trump must have seen this movie and then decided to out-do the screenwriters ... because he's done that TWICE now in real life.

-"BB"-

[dales]

Jim....

Since your original post was posted some 4 years ago (when your daughter was 15) what is she like now at around 19?

My younger daughter Kathy really changed alot in that time period.

Previously we both enjoyed the classic black and white films of the 1940's and 1950's. When she got closer to 16, her old man was a hopeless Luddite. Not the "all-knowing" dad she had as a child.

They grow up so fast and Kathy will be 30 this year!

Time waits for no man (or woman).

[Lord Jim]

Dale I thought it was kind of funny when I read your post about your daughter and the MAGA cap, because I've got kind of the opposite situation...

Tati's been going through a left-wing hippie chick phase...

We're not as close as we were but I really can't complain about our relationship, especially compared to the one she has with her mother...

It's gotten a little better over the last year, but for a good while there were long stretches when they were barely speaking to each other, and when they did shouting was frequently involved...

Oh well, this too shall pass...

[Big RR]

Jim--from what I have seen, and in my experience with my daughters, the strained relationships between girls and their mothers is fairly common; it gets a little better in their 20s, but not what it was when they were younger. Add the stress of a wedding (my younger daughter is getting married in June), and all bets are off. All I can do is referee and try to mediate disputes before they turn violent (and this daughter is the more steady, less emotional one).

[RayThom]

LJ, once Tati moves out of the house for college dorm life you'll find out how quickly this slightly dysfunctional family dynamic changes.

Sit tight... you'll have your daughter back in no time.

[wesw]

I feel your pain.

me and daughter are finally talking like adults now.

it is good compared to the last year or two....

it s like I m not as stupid and uninformed as I was last year.....

yeah, I gave an eyeroll.....

....god knows that I have received my fair share from my lovely daughter...

[wesw]

maybe that post was a bad idea.

I m just concerned.

afraid for my daughter to walk to youth group.

a lot of people living in the woods around here, in tents.

some of them are nuts.

the railroad ran a bunch of them out and blocked of the tracks and cleared a bunch of brush where they were living, maybe one of them got pissed about it

idk.

[RayThom]

wesw, that is truly gruesome. However, I think you're in the wrong forum with this tragic news.

Regardless, I understand the local authorities are calling it one of the worst case of suicide they ever saw.

[wesw]

damn ray, i actually smiled for real....

i do like me some good gallows humour

[Lord Jim]

From the description of all the macabre weirdness that's been going on in your burg that you posted wes (and I see have now removed; this probably wasn't the thread for it) it sounds like this guy may have moved into your town:



You haven't seen a 1958 Mercedes-Benz 300d W189 tooling around your streets have you?

[MajGenl.Meade]

I think I've got this one!