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A US dentist who killed a lion in Zimbabwe says he regrets shooting the well-known animal and insists that he thought he was on a legal hunt.



Police in Zimbabwe have arrested two people over the death of Cecil, the country's most famous lion, and say Mr Palmer may also face poaching charges.

But Mr Palmer, from Minnesota, said he relied on professional guides to find a lion and obtain the necessary permits.

He also said he only found out the lion's identity at the end of the hunt.

The American tourist, who is believed to have paid about $50,000 (£32,000) to go on the hunt, is said to have shot the animal with a crossbow and rifle.

It was later skinned and beheaded, according to the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force (ZCTF), a local charity.

Two Zimbabwean men - a professional hunter and a farm owner - have been charged with poaching offences because the group did not have a hunting permit.

They could face up to 15 years in prison in Zimbabwe if they are found guilty. They are due to appear in court on Wednesday.

he thought he was on a legal hunt

Gob wrote:come on, someone should

A US dentist who killed a lion in Zimbabwe says he regrets shooting the well-known animal and insists that he thought he was on a legal hunt.



Police in Zimbabwe have arrested two people over the death of Cecil, the country's most famous lion, and say Mr Palmer may also face poaching charges.

But Mr Palmer, from Minnesota, said he relied on professional guides to find a lion and obtain the necessary permits.

He also said he only found out the lion's identity at the end of the hunt.

The American tourist, who is believed to have paid about $50,000 (£32,000) to go on the hunt, is said to have shot the animal with a crossbow and rifle.

It was later skinned and beheaded, according to the Zimbabwe Conservation Task Force (ZCTF), a local charity.

Two Zimbabwean men - a professional hunter and a farm owner - have been charged with poaching offences because the group did not have a hunting permit.

They could face up to 15 years in prison in Zimbabwe if they are found guilty. They are due to appear in court on Wednesday.

What motivates a man to kill a wild lion, from a distance, in complete safety? This wankstain should be eradicated.

bigskygal wrote:Not acquainted with animal rights theory, I take it?

Walter Palmer, a Minnesota dentist who sparked an angry firestorm by killing Cecil, a famous and protected lion on a big game hunt in Zimbabwe, settled a sexual harassment claim against him in 2009 for $127,500.

According to public documents posted below, Palmer is accused of sexually harassing a receptionist, who was also his patient, between July of 1999 and January of 2005. The woman “was subjected to verbal comments and physical conduct involving her breasts, buttocks, and genitalia.”

The woman informed her supervisor and Palmer that she wanted it to stop, but it didn’t, and she alleges she was fired for reporting the harassment, according to the document. Palmer paid out the settlement without admitting to the allegations.

Aside from agreeing to pay $127,500, Palmer had to undergo “at least three hours” of sexual harassment training and provide the woman a signed letter of recommendation for future prospective employers.

Jim Wright wrote:Say there's this doctor. He performs a certain distasteful medical procedure. It's legal within certain stringent parameters, but many people find it abhorrent. This doctor receives death threats on an hourly basis. He can never be sure how serious they are so he has to spend every second looking over his shoulder - some folks might think that poetic justice. His character is ripped to shreds daily, in the street, in the paper, on the internet. They go through his trash, any possible violation of procedure is seized upon as evidence of wrongdoing, he's guilty and nothing he can say will ever change that. They record everything he says and twist the words to their agenda. His family and employees are harassed and threatened. Protesters follow him wherever he goes. His address and phone numbers are made public, with predictable results. Many of the people who hate him, who attack him every single day, who engage in character assassination, who damn him to their religion's hell, believe they own the moral high ground. They believe ANY action is justified, some even believe murder is acceptable - maybe not at their own hands per se, but they say things like "if somebody blows his brains out, I'll laugh!" and the fire of righteousness burns in their eyes. And they believe, truly believe, they are making the world a better place.

Vile, yes? The vast majority of you are liberals or progressives, this sort of behavior is despicable to you, right?

Now, let's say there's this dentist who enjoys big game hunting...

You see where this is going, right?

You can disagree. You can vehemently disagree. But there's a line, folks, it's grey and fuzzy and sometimes it's hard to see and sometimes it moves, but when you cross it you become one of them.

I put up the previous post for a reason. I asked you to read the comments because I wanted you to see what I see when people can't let go their own hates and fears and obsessions for even a second. That's how it looks to me when I post a picture my cat and you respond with a comment about Sarah Palin, or GMOs, or the goddamned Koch brothers or whatever it is keeps you awake and sweating in the night. That's how it looks to me when I post a link to a story on lion poaching and you respond with comments urging torture, murder, and violence.

Don't get me wrong, I understand the impulse - I do, better than most of you know. But as I said before, if we want the world to be a better place, then we have to be better people and I include myself in that x 2 knowing damned well that I often fall short of the mark.

I hope I've made my point.