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What not to wear

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:56 pm
by Gob
Are you limiting your career options by wearing the wrong outfit to work? Here are the top five items that are best left at home.

There are some things you should never, ever wear to the office, and most of us like to think we know where the lines of decency lie. But experts warn that as office dress codes get more relaxed, many people are limiting their career options by choosing the wrong outfit.

With industries such as media, recreation and high-tech start-ups promoting casual work environments, they say the lack of guidelines can prove difficult for staff to gauge.

Career consultant, Katie Roberts lists the most common errors as wearing too much bling and make-up, choosing clothes that are too revealing, and dressing too casually.

Don't overdo colours or patterns when it comes to choosing suits and their accoutrements. Photo: AP


“We live in a highly visual world and a consistently sharp corporate image plays an integral role in career advancement,” said Caitlin Stewart, a personal fashion stylist.

So here are the five garments and accessories the professionals agree should stay at home on work days.

Midriff tops/mini skirts

You've worked hard on your body and now you want to show off as much as you can. However human flesh is best kept tucked away in a professional environment, say the experts who point at garments such as low-slung pants, hot pants, torn trousers, shorts, plunging necklines and midriff tops as attire for some other occasion than work.

“Too much skin, especially leg is not professional. The best part of a woman's legs if usually from the knee down, so if you are to expose any part of the leg this is the best most flattering option,” said Stewart. She also advised that the less arm the better, and rules out shoe string straps, halter tops and strapless styles.

“Covering arms is a mark of respect in many religions institutions and sacred spaces, so too it should be in the workplace.”

The tummy is also a point of contention for both sexes in the office. “Tops that are too tight around the tummy region make for a messy and unkempt look. Buttons should not be pulling at the stomach or chest and under no circumstances should the midriff be exposed. This tells onlookers that you don't care enough about your appearance which may indicate a flow on effect when it comes to your work,” she said.

A Huffington Post article on workplace attire adds: “clothing that looks like underwear can be distracting . . . If you don't want give anyone the wrong idea, then cover up with a cardigan or a fitted jacket until after work”.

Tracksuits/leggings

You may jog with your boss at lunchtime, but that does not make sports gear acceptable wear around the office say experts, meaning that tracksuits, running shoes, leggings, and anything made of spandex are probably best left at the gym.

“This should go without saying, but if your office is uber-casual you might need a reminder. Sweatshirts, Pilates pants, track jackets, and especially spandex shorts should never see the inside of your office. We're willing to compromise on running shoes, especially if you walk to work, but other items should be safely stowed in your gym locker or yoga bag,” said the Huffington Post.

Novelty t-shirts/ties

The tech crowd loves wearing these, and the more unfathomable the message on the front, the better.

However the Huffington Post said: “Though you might enjoy shirts that make a statement (literally), others could take offence at political or religious messages. Best to play it safe and save that outfit for the weekends.”

Experts add that you should also avoid extremes like ties or patterns that are too loud and draw the focus away the wearer, preventing them from being taken seriously.

This category includes novelty ties, very loud suits, shirts and accessories, detailed and large patterned stockings, fishnets or socks.

“This can look a little cheap and is often hard to get right. A safe bet is to stick with classic styles and block colours and save the patterns for the weekend,” said Stewart.

“Stick with a classic handbag or leather satchel in a neutral tone for a versatile and professional look.”

Thongs

Hats, beanies and casual footwear like thongs, ugg boots, and crocs are best avoided said Roberts. “These should only be worn outside the office as they don't present a professional image in the workplace and may imply that you don't take your job seriously”.

Stewart added: “Any detail that is too extreme draws the focus and attention away from the wearer, creating a distraction. Fashion extremes in the workplace will reduce your chances of being taken seriously.”

She also advises that men wear matching shoes and belts with suits, ensure shoes are polished and free from scuffs and match their socks with the colour of their trousers (which need to be the right length). Women with an open-toe shoe should ensure toenails are well manicured, and that the heels are not too high.

Facial piercings

While tattoos and piercings may be part of your personality, our experts agree that nose and tongue piercings - particularly in more corporate work environments – don't give the right impression.

“Avoid nose and tongue piercings, particularly in more corporate work environments. Keep your nails short and cover tattoos where possible,” advised Roberts.

“They may be a work of art, however there is a time and a place,” added Stewart.
I'm at work, wearing a polo shirt, chinos and hiking sandals (with socks!).

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2010 11:03 pm
by The Hen
He is so dapper.

Just don't ask what he wears at home.


I have five dresses, three trousers, four skirts, seven jackets, ten blouses, three waistcoats, four jumpers, two cardigans, two overcoats that do me year round.

The key is being classical.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:25 am
by Andrew D
The fact that what one wears to work (assuming that one is not in the military, the clergy, etc.) matters even slightly is yet more proof that even the most "advanced" human societies are hovering somewhere around early adolescence.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 3:38 am
by Jarlaxle
Considering that I have a physical, often dirty job, fashion takes a very distant second place to safety & comfort...T-shirt & shorts in the summer, hoodie and work pants in the winter, steel-toe boots all year.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:13 am
by loCAtek
The Hen wrote:He is so dapper.

Just don't ask what he wears at home.


I have five dresses, three trousers, four skirts, seven jackets, ten blouses, three waistcoats, four jumpers, two cardigans, two overcoats that do me year round.

The key is being classical.

True, if you''re politicking that's one thing. If you're working/laboring that's another.

You either advertise what you do; or do what you advertise.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:24 am
by SisterMaryFellatio
:beat Thats for the socks and sandals!


Completly agree Hen....Classics is the way to go. i have the boring Ramsay receptionist look

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 1:21 pm
by Jarlaxle
I think I might like the stuff you wore at your old job better!

*ducks and runs*

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 7:16 pm
by rubato
While I generally don't agree with conformity for its own sake it must be said that dress is a form of communication and, at least to me, it is important to dress in a way which shows respect for the place or group where one is. Wearing a t-shirt which says "I fuck like a beast" in a restaurant* simply because you don't think anyone can make you not do so is just willful nastiness.

I don't go to other people's churches, weddings &c unless I can dress in a way which shows respect for them.

I think people either view this positively or negatively and that initial reaction colors all of their later responses. People who view it negatively see conformity as the imposition of an external will upon them and ask 'why do I HAVE to do that' and want to talk about their 'rights' as an individual to their own decisions, cultural backgrounds, and tastes. People who view it positively see it as an opportunity to communicate their willingness to 'be like you' to 'belong' and see learning the rules as empowering them to be more effective members of society. When I worked at UCSC I refereed an argument between a Chinese-American student and an African-American student who each took the predictable positions on this.

On the whole I think it is a symptom of a healthier society to have the widest possible range of personal expression accepted.

yrs,
rubato

* Actually saw this in restaurant while eating breakfast in Mammoth 2 years ago.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:08 am
by Sean
Socks and sandals Strop?

Are you a geography teacher now?

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:09 am
by Gob
They're comfortable as hell, and I've no delusions on being trendy, smart, or fashionable.
Image

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Bliss.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 6:40 pm
by kristina
I'm wearing the same shoes, Gob, but at least my socks match.... :nana

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:39 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
When I was called for an "informal" interview for my current job I asked the admin assistant what one wears to an "informal" interview. She responded that the guy who would be my boss said he didn't care if I showed up in a bathing suit as long as I showed up and was qualified for the job. I showed up in a suit and got the job. I doubt it was my attire that got me the job though. I think it was the impression I gave and the recommendation of a long ago boss of mine gave. I do owe him a few beers.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:25 pm
by Gob
kristina wrote:I'm wearing the same shoes, Gob, but at least my socks match.... :nana
Hey, I'm a rebel, I live on the edge, I care naught for matching socks...

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:41 pm
by @meric@nwom@n
Scrubs and labcoat, with sensible shoes.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:07 am
by The Hen
Gob wrote:Hey, I'm a rebel, I live on the edge, I care naught for matching socks...
... or for t-shirts without holes, or for pants that fit instead of being a size or two too large, or for anything that could be confused for 'smart casual'.

I could go on ....


(I usually do.)

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:10 pm
by Guinevere
Now now Hen, clothes do not make the man. But they sometimes make him a little bit nicer to watch!

I come down somewhere between Andrew and rubato on the point. I think we are lucky to live in a time when there is quite a lot of freedom regarding how we dress, even in a professional setting, but that clothing should be appropriate for the setting. That might mean a pinstriped suit, it might mean lined jeans and workboots. On very few occasions does it mean belly shirts, thongs (if they can been seen -- which is a whole nother issue), or novelty t-shirts.

I also love clothes, and love taking my classic professional attire and style and giving it a bit of a modern twist. Yesterday I had to brief a client in the evening, so I always try to wear a suit or at least a jacket for client meetings. I wore a grey suit with knee length shirt, but with black tights, some fun jewelry, and really cute short grey suede boots. Got compliments all day :D

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:21 pm
by Crackpot
That might mean a pinstriped suit
... if you're playing a circa 1930's gangster.

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 1:52 am
by Jarlaxle
He said pinstriped, not a zoot suit. :p

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 9:26 am
by loCAtek
So, I dress like a day laborer, so what? I'm going to get grease, soot and burns all over my clothes; so that I eventually look like I've been attacked by moths. Not to mention: the intense UV fades the shirt fronts pretty fast. I'm pretty unique in that I get 'boob shadows' after a few months. :look

Re: What not to wear

Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:27 am
by SisterMaryFellatio
The Hen wrote:
Gob wrote:Hey, I'm a rebel, I live on the edge, I care naught for matching socks...
... or for t-shirts without holes, or for pants that fit instead of being a size or two too large, or for anything that could be confused for 'smart casual'.

I could go on ....


(I usually do.)

I feel your pain Hen