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She could work out a little more and tone up. She is kind of podgy.

yrs,
rubato

I hadn't watched this for a long time, and I really found her facial expressions in this moment fascinating...

Alternating between the nervousness and uncertainty that one would expect of a young woman thrust into this position, (she was 27 at the time) still mourning the loss of her father, combined with flashes of the confidence and determination that would become her trademark...

A truly transitional moment....

rubato wrote:She could work out a little more and tone up. She is kind of podgy.

yrs,
rubato

Shes 89 years old Aspergers boy.

She's seen off almost all these prime ministers

Sir Winston Churchill
(1874–1965) 26 October 1951 6 April 1955
2 Sir Anthony Eden
(1897–1977) 6 April 1955 10 January 1957
3 Harold Macmillan
(1894–1986) 10 January 1957 19 October 1963
4 Sir Alec Douglas-Home
(1903–1995) 19 October 1963 16 October 1964
5 Harold Wilson
(1916–1995) 16 October 1964 19 June 1970
6 Edward Heath
(1916–2005) 19 June 1970 4 March 1974
(5) Harold Wilson
(1916–1995) 4 March 1974 5 April 1976
7 James Callaghan
(1912–2005) 5 April 1976 4 May 1979
8 Margaret Thatcher
(1925–2013) 4 May 1979 28 November 1990
9 John Major
(1943–) 28 November 1990 2 May 1997
10 Tony Blair
(1953–) 2 May 1997 27 June 2007
11 Gordon Brown
(1951–) 27 June 2007 11 May 2010
12 David Cameron
(1966–) 11 May 2010 Incumbent

is that how she dusts her mosaic floor?

clever.

12 U.S. Presidents as well: Harry S Truman (1945–53); Dwight D Eisenhower (1953–61); John F Kennedy (1961–63); Lyndon B Johnson (1963–69); Richard Nixon (1969–74); Gerald Ford (1974–77); Jimmy Carter (1977–81); Ronald Reagan (1981–89); George H W Bush (1989–93); Bill Clinton (1993–2001); George W Bush (2001–09) and Barack Obama (2009–present).

If she can hang on until she gets to 70 years on the throne, she'll still only be 19th on the list of longest-reigning monarchs of the world. Sobhuza Ii of Swaziland seems to be in no danger of losing first place.

That's a terrible painting that one... surely, no one (other than whoever painted it) thinks it's good?

As paul McCartney said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tzb5QABCmak

Well done Liz!

Gob wrote:

rubato wrote:She could work out a little more and tone up. She is kind of podgy.

yrs,
rubato

Shes 89 years old Aspergers boy.

All the more reason. Less weight makes it easier on aging bones and joints. Maybe she could work with a personal trainer and a dietitian and attend fewer banquets? Cut back on the martinis a little.

I'm not saying she's a barge or anything but she is pulling quite a wake.


Look at Jane Fonda, she's 77 and still very slender.


yrs,
rubato

And see here, she looks a lot less massive than that painting:




I think that picture has her a lot plumper than she actually is. But she, and her hips and knees, would be a lot better off if she lost another 40 lbs or so.


yrs,
rubato

It is an atrocious painting. Worse than this statue of Nathan Bedford Forrest by the road in Brentwood, TN:

she is perfectly proportioned for a healthy 89 yr old, she will slim with old age and reach rubes ideal of emaciation when she is about 103....

My mother was a geriatric nurse who worked in nursing homes most of her life. One thing I recall her saying was when people reached their 80s, generally those with some extra weight would generally show a longer term survival than those who were lighter. Apparently, if you reached that age without most of the ill effects of that extra weight, it became an advantage when faced with a grave illness; they might lose those 20-30 or more pounds, but they would survive, while their lighter brethren did not. It's anecdotal evidence to be sure, but it does make some sense when many people just waste away while ill.

Of course, if the extra weight is causing any problems, like with knees or hips, it should be shed. But otherwise, it could be beneficial.

Exactly BigRR, and the geriatric specialist we work with for Mom said exactly the same thing. They would rather see their patients keep some extra flesh, instead of being thin. Extra weight also helps keep up bone density, which is particularly important in women.

When she was going through her hell last year, Mom was about 60 pounds overweight. That extra weight probably kept her alive (she's down to an 8 from an 18) during a lot of what went on.

It sounds like I am outvoted and the 'termite queen' look is preferred.



yrs,
rubato

before I had my lung out I asked my surgeon if I should change my diet in the two weeks I had to prepare for surgery.

he told yes, I should eat as much as I wanted of whatever I wanted, because I would not be eating much after the surgery and that any fat stores would be a benefit. I could worry about eating healthier afterwards.

he was correct.

my great grandmother had about the same body as the queen at 89, not fat, just healthily plump. she made it to 98....

From Vox.com:

That one time when Queen Elizabeth
hazed the crown prince of Saudi Arabia

Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II is many things: corgi owner, eager participant in Olympic stunts, and, as of today, the UK's longest-reigning monarch.

And as this story from a former British ambassador to Saudi Arabia makes clear, she is also a stone-cold badass.

Sir Sherard Cowper-Coles was given a private audience with the queen when he was appointed ambassador to Saudi Arabia in 2003. At the time, Abdullah was technically still the crown prince, though he'd been de facto ruler for several years. During their meeting, the queen gleefully recounted the story of Abdullah's first visit to Balmoral, her castle in Scotland. It all started innocently enough, with an offer to tour the estate:

After lunch, the Queen had asked her royal guest whether he would like a tour of the estate. Prompted by his foreign minister the urbane Prince Saud, an initially hesitant Abdullah had agreed. The royal Land Rovers were drawn up in front of the castle. As instructed, the Crown Prince climbed into the front seat of the front Land Rover, his interpreter in the seat behind.

But then, a surprising twist! The queen herself was Abdullah's driver:

To his surprise, the Queen climbed into the driving seat, turned the ignition and drove off. Women are not — yet — allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia, and Abdullah was not used to being driven by a woman, let alone a queen.

And she wasn't just driving, she was DRIVING, leaving Abdullah a quivering wreck:

His nervousness only increased as the Queen, an Army driver in wartime, accelerated the Land Rover along the narrow Scottish estate roads, talking all the time. Through his interpreter, the Crown Prince implored the Queen to slow down and concentrate on the road ahead.

That's right: Queen Elizabeth basically spent an afternoon using her military-grade driving skills to haze the crown prince of Saudi Arabia.

Result: Elizabeth 1, Abdullah 0.

(Hat tip to Peter W. Singer.)

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