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Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 1:23 am**

I believe that Hawaii and Arizona have it right by no setting and resetting clocks nonsense.

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 3:33 am**

Fun Fact: This is the song Leo Burt sang at the Bonner High School talent show in 1966. He was really good but obviously found out later he had abilities in other areas. And the rest is history.

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 4:44 am**

If you live in the north, daylight savings matters more than if you live in the south - like Arizona and Hawaii.

Thanks for reminding me to change my clocks . . . although mine are all computer-based these days which means I don't have to remember.

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 8:28 am**

I love Daylight Savings time...

If I had my way, I'd make it year-round...

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 12:13 pm**

Oh my! Another persuasive datum for extreme climate change:

I agree with Lord Jim.

Snail gate

Posted: **Sun Mar 13, 2016 7:19 pm**

I'd much rather stick with one or the other instead of this switching thing.

But it seems to really be focused on those south of 45 deg N. Once you get above that the amount of sunlight difference from Summer to Winter is relatively extreme, so in DST, the sun ends up setting after 9PM at the solstice and if you were to have it during the winter, it wouldn't rise until 9AM.

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:28 am**

This clock is actually right in my neighborhood. I hope they did NOT set it forward.

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 12:30 pm**

There really is an actual clock? I used to see it on the cover (upper left corner) of the monthly magazine 'Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists'
That was back in olden days when there were little stores called 'newsstands' where they sold a variety of daily newspapers, all kinds of magazines, and tobacco products. Sometimes under-the-counter porn and illegal lottery numbers. But that is all gone now. What is left is fewer 'newsstands' and those only have a few token newspapers and lots of legal porn and lottery numbers. And this is in a university town. My son works out in the hinterlands and he laughs when I ask him if he has seen something from an East or West Coast newspaper. If it ain't in USA Today, or the Globe, forget it.

snailgate

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:59 pm**

But it seems to really be focused on those south of 45 deg N. Once you get above that the amount of sunlight difference from Summer to Winter is relatively extreme, so in DST, the sun ends up setting after 9PM at the solstice and if you were to have it during the winter, it wouldn't rise until 9AM.

Exactly, and the use of both standard and DST assures that there will be light during the ordinary daytime--nominally 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM. I hate changing the clock when we lose an hour, but I hate sunrises at 5:00 AM or 8:30 AM even more.

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:51 pm**

I agree with Lord Jim and Burning Petard. Put DST on, and leave it that way. It's far better for business. When DST ends in the fall, it's just like turning off a switch. NO ONE comes in to shop after dinner, and not many after work because they all want to go home and eat. The heck with the little kids waiting for their school buses in the dark. They don't have a viable congressional lobby anyway.

That option was not part of the poll, so I have not responded.

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:00 pm**

Burning Petard wrote:There really is an actual clock? I used to see it on the cover (upper left corner) of the monthly magazine 'Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists'

Yeah, the clock still exists, and so does the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists. If you want to see it, go to 1155 E. 60th St., Chicago (60th & Woodlawn), on the campus of the University of Chicago. (If you want to, you can also take a look at the Henry Moore sculpture Nuclear Energy on the 5600 block of Ellis Ave., the exact location where the Manhattan Project team devised the first nuclear reactor to produce the first self-sustaining controlled nuclear reaction. Then we can head over to Giordano's for deep-dish Chicago-style pizza.)

Originally, the Clock, which hangs on a wall in the Bulletin's office at the University of Chicago, represented an analogy for the threat of global nuclear war; however, since 2007 it has also reflected climate change and new developments in the life sciences and technology that could inflict irrevocable harm to humanity. The most recent officially announced setting—three minutes to midnight (23:57)—was made in January 2015 due to "[un]checked climate change, global nuclear weapons modernizations, and outsized nuclear weapons arsenals". This setting was retained in January 2016.

As for the poll...

MG McAnick wrote:I agree with Lord Jim and Burning Petard. Put DST on, and leave it that way. It's far better for business. When DST ends in the fall, it's just like turning off a switch. NO ONE comes in to shop after dinner, and not many after work because they all want to go home and eat. The heck with the little kids waiting for their school buses in the dark. They don't have a viable congressional lobby anyway.

That option was not part of the poll, so I have not responded.

This.

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:25 pm**

Doomsday... it gonna' be "YUGE."

Posted: **Mon Mar 14, 2016 11:02 pm**

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2016 2:47 pm**

I heard a guy on the radio say he likes DST because it gives us more hours of daylight.

All I know is that there was sunlight during the the drive into work last week. This week it's dark on the drive in to work.

Personally I don't care which way they set the clock although it's a pain to go around and change the timers on the lamps.

ETA
Remember to check/change the batteries on your smoke detectors.

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:20 pm**

RayThom wrote:Doomsday... it gonna' be "YUGE."

Anybody happen to catch "xkcd" the other day?

(hovertext: After a power outage at the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, the new Digital Doomsday Clock is flashing 00:00 and mushroom clouds keep appearing and then retracting once a second.)

-"BB"-

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2016 6:41 pm**

Bicycle Bill wrote:Anybody happen to catch "xkcd" the other day?

Yeah, I did.

Posted: **Wed Mar 16, 2016 9:30 pm**

We went many happy years sans DST. Then Mitch Daniels promised wealth and prosperity by implementing DST.

No wealth, just sunshine at 10pm. Fuck it.

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