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Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:05 am
by dales
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Americans and Australians share so much when it comes to a common language, values of liberal democracy, and certain similarities of history. But the Yanks and the Aussies are just different enough that they often look at each other sideways—whether it’s disagreements over snacks or confusion with slang. Which is precisely why the US military published a booklet during World War II in order to bridge the cultural divide.

With President Trump bent on destroying the historic relationship between the two countries, it seems like a perfect time to look at an artifact of WWII that was intended to bring Americans and Australians together. Published in 1942, the 54 page book “Instructions for American Servicemen in Australia” gave Americans information on everything from statistics on food (the average Australian ate twice as much beef as Americans at the time) to the kind of slang they were likely to hear (“bonzer,” for instance, was a word for “great or super”).
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Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 2:25 am
by Gob
Of course, some of the references in the pamphlet are rather offensive, even for the period. The book refers to the “70,000 or so primitive ‘Abos’” in the country, a highly offensive term for Aboriginal Australians. And there’s no shortage of racism against the Japanese (widely referred to as “Japs” in the US) who were, of course, the adversary in the Pacific theater.
Oh me oh my, some fucking snowflake generation middle class white person may read pamphlet that and get butt hurt!!!!

And what teh fuck is offensive about "Japs"?

Brits.
Aussies
Yanks

I'm going to weep into my flower hat if someone uses those terms......

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:41 pm
by rubato
Gob wrote:
Of course, some of the references in the pamphlet are rather offensive, even for the period. The book refers to the “70,000 or so primitive ‘Abos’” in the country, a highly offensive term for Aboriginal Australians. And there’s no shortage of racism against the Japanese (widely referred to as “Japs” in the US) who were, of course, the adversary in the Pacific theater.
Oh me oh my, some fucking snowflake generation middle class white person may read pamphlet that and get butt hurt!!!!

And what teh fuck is offensive about "Japs"?

Brits.
Aussies
Yanks

I'm going to weep into my flower hat if someone uses those terms......

Intent. "Jap" was intended to be an insult and this intent was understood. While it was understandable after Pearl Harbor and during the war it was never justified when applied to Japanese-Americans as they proved by being some of the most decorated soldiers in the war from any country.


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rubato

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:47 pm
by Joe Guy
My Japanese friends are always well behaved so I always allow them to talk to me. My doctor says they're great patients too...

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:54 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I don't have any Japanese friends.

and before anyone goes and fixes that for me:
I don't have any Japanese friends.
FTFY
:mrgreen:

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:32 pm
by wesw
yanks was intended as an insult also.

so what?

it all depends on if you allow yourself to be insulted.

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:41 pm
by Lord Jim
I think it would be very insulting to refer to a Nip as a Jap...

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:13 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Lord Jim wrote:I think it would be very insulting to refer to a Nip as a Jap...
Not to mention confusing.
Britney Spears would have had a "Jap slip" (rather than a "nip slip") during her recent performance in Vegas.
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Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:57 pm
by wesw
yeah..., nip is a compliment right?

"if those little nips weren t so good at building ships....."

implies manufacturing skill, right?

:shrug

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 8:00 pm
by Joe Guy
If anyone is trying to defend using the term "nip", rotsa ruck with that one...

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:07 pm
by wesw
don t be so sensitive, it s a chink in your armour. don t let a chink in your armour make you yellow.....

just fill the chink with something strong......

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:39 pm
by Lord Jim
Careful there wes...

You're headed down a slippery slope...

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:44 pm
by Joe Guy
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Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:52 pm
by wesw
how do Italians make a slope slippery?

dago with olive oil....

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:41 pm
by wesw
how do you get your irish up?

you tell them there is still some whiskey in the bottle....

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:17 pm
by rubato
wesw wrote:yanks was intended as an insult also.

so what?

it all depends on if you allow yourself to be insulted.

It does not matter if one or two people used it as an insult it was accepted by Americans as a self-deprecating and positive nickname so proven by that great musician Spike Jones:
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, you make a Yankee cranky
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, Uncle Sammy's gonna spanky
Wait and see before we're done
The A, B, C and D will sink your rising sun*
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, you don't know Uncle Sammy
When he fights for his rights, you'll take it on the lammy
For he'll wipe the Axis right off the map
You're a sap, sap sap, Mr. Jap

You're a sap, Mr. Jap, you make a Yankee cranky
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, Uncle Sammy's gonna spanky
Wait and see before we're done
The A, B, C and D will sink your rising sun
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, oh what a load to carry
Don't you know, don't you know, you're committing hari-kari
For we'll wipe the Axis right off the map
You're a sap, sap, sap, Mr. Jap ..."
And by naming things Yankee Clipper:
The nickname of Joe DiMaggio, a Major League Baseball player
Yankee Clipper is a sea scout sailing vessel (Gaff Headed Ketch) in the city of Seattle.
Clipper ships developed by New Englanders in the mid-nineteenth century
A Pan American Airways Boeing 314 flying boat
The Apollo 12 command module
The Yankee Clipper refers to Mark Wahlberg's character in the 2011 film The Other Guys for shooting baseball player Derek Jeter.
Yankee Clipper (train), a passenger train service between New York City and Boston
Yankee Clipper (Harbour Cruise), a NY waterway harbour cruise
The American Aviation AA-1 Yankee Clipper light aircraft
The Yankee Clipper (1927 film)
Restaurant occupying the 170-176 John Street Building in New York
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rubato

Re: Aussie Customs vs. The USA

Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 10:27 pm
by Bicycle Bill
rubato wrote:It does not matter if one or two people used it as an insult it was accepted by Americans as a self-deprecating and positive nickname so proven by that great musician Spike Jones:
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, you make a Yankee cranky
You're a sap, Mr. Jap, Uncle Sammy's gonna spanky
Wait and see before we're done
The A, B, C and D will sink your rising sun...
In this case, "A. B, C, and D" refer to the four major powers in the Pacific that the Japanese saw as a threat:
the Americans, the British, the Chinese, and the Dutch.
And there is your Daily Dollop of Didactic Diversion for today.
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Dec 7,1941, Day of Infamy

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:55 pm
by Burning Petard
My Kindle version of the Daily NY Times today contains no mention of Pearl Harbor. A search of the online version pulled up several notes about it. Neither POTUS nor Pence nor their wives will be in Hawaii today. I have long admired the Brits for the way they have preserved "Rememberance Day"

Here in USofA we prefer to monetize everything. November 11 was once for remembering the dead of the War to End All Wars. Once May 30 was the day to remember the dead from the American Civil War. Now they are times for special merchandise sales and restaurant discounts.

The English have been the butt of many international insults as 'a nation of shopkeepers.' Seems to me that appellation belongs on this side of the pond.

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