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The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 11:31 pm
by rubato
Self-driving cars and trucks are becoming common sights here and will soon be on sale and now, this:


https://www.pv-magazine.com/2017/06/30/ ... he-market/
Buzz Lightyear: first solar-powered family car hits the market

The Lightyear One, developed by Dutch startup Lightyear, is now available for general sale at a retail price of €119,000. Company hopes to secure 200 orders by end of year.
June 30, 2017 Ian Clover
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Capex to Opex: despite a high upfront cost of €119,000, the Lightyear One is theoretically free to run.

Image: Lightyear

What began as a university project by students at TU Eindhoven in the Netherlands in 2013 has this week reached a satisfying denouement as the world’s first solar-powered family car officially hits the market.

The Lightyear One was developed by the team that won the Bridgestone World Solar Challenge in the 2013 cruiser class, which is a solar-powered car race held every year. After spending years developing the race-winning vehicle, the students turned their attention to making the prototype a commercially viable family saloon option, and now has five orders for its €119,000 car.

“We used all the student-time knowledge to develop a commercial solar car,” said Lightyear’s Tesse Hartjes. Assembled in the Netherlands at the Helmond Automotive Campus, and built using Dutch parts, the launch of the Lightyear One is expected to be achieved with investment of just a few million euros. Ordinarily, a new model car launch can cost up to €1 billion euros, but Lightyear believes that its niche offering will attract enough consumers and investors.

Lightyear is confident of securing an addition 200 orders for its flagship vehicle by early next year. The Lightyear One has a 500-mile driving range and could theoretically cover 10,000 km a year under Dutch sunshine, doubling to more than 20,000 km in sunnier climes such as Hawaii and California.

The vehicle is fitted with integrated solar panels at optimum locations across the roof and hood, with a battery that stores the energy harvested. While the Lightyear One does feature a standard charging point typical of normal electric vehicles (EVs), the company CEO Lex Hoefsloot believes that the car can be operated completely independently of charging points.

“It’s a revolutionary step forward in electric mobility because we are able to combine a great look with extreme efficiency,” said Hoefsloot. “The first model makes science fiction become reality: cars powered using just the sun.”

The CEO added that the vehicle is ideal for eco-conscious drivers who live in regions with few EV charging stations. “This is a statement to show that electric cars are ready for every corner of the planet,” said Hoefsloot. “It is the first step in our mission to make EVs available for everyone.”

The U.S. is the launch market for the Lightyear One, with European deliveries expected in early 2019. The company said.

Other companies have worked on the idea of solar-powered cars for quite some time, but there has been no rush to bring such prototypes to market en masse, at least not yet. Chinese thin-firm aspirant Hanergy unveiled a model in 2015, but the current surge of EVs has served to stymie interest in solar-powered models.
The fact that this is a group who, as students, won the global solar challenge twice with different cars makes it more plausible. Their experimental vehicle went 1500 km on a single charge.

https://www.lightyear.one/history/

But taking a new technology into manufacturing and making it pay is a difficult step. I suspect that Tesla or someone similar will buy them out or partner with them.

What next? Solar-powered self-driving farm equipment?

yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 12:13 am
by rubato
The kids from Eindhoven do it for a third time winning the cruiser class of the world solar challenge by a whopping margin. The cruiser class are cars designed to carry 4 people and have 'normal' car functionality.

https://www.pv-magazine.com/2017/10/16/ ... olar-race/

https://www.youtube.com/user/SolarTeamEindhoven

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This is their winner from 2015, the last race.

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The US teams finished (which is an achievement) but not threatened to win in this category. Minnesota has come in 4th and 5th in the prior two and 5th again. They've done better in other categories and a Highschool team from Miss. Won this year in the 'adventure' class.

https://www.worldsolarchallenge.org/eve ... -summaries

yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:23 am
by BoSoxGal
‘Like normal functional cars’ = what’s the top speed?

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:41 am
by rubato
BoSoxGal wrote:‘Like normal functional cars’ = what’s the top speed?

Top speed, don't know, I'll check. Average for day 7 was 69km/hr with 4 passengers. But due to the nature of the contest they are modulating speed so that they are running on solar rather than draining the battery. The efficiency is scored as passenger-km / kwh so I suspect that they are able to drive a lot faster but are held back by the need to be efficient.


yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 1:50 am
by rubato
125km/hr 78 mph Not bad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stella_(solar_vehicles)

A different group from NL has won the challenger class SEVEN times. Along with a dominant position in 3D printing buildings the NL has become a major center of innovation.

yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:30 am
by Crackpot
Crash ratings?

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:27 pm
by dales
Don't ask. :lol:

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 12:54 am
by rubato
according to their video it is road-legal in Nl. I don't think they do the kind of crash-testing the US requires.


yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:38 am
by Jarlaxle
Crackpot wrote:Crash ratings?
Similar to a garden tractor.

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 3:56 pm
by Darren
Mass production should cut the price. I'd like to see an option to transfer power to a home system while parked in the driveway. The more versatility the better.

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 4:37 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
rubato wrote:according to their video it is road-legal in Nl. I don't think they do the kind of crash-testing the US requires.


yrs,
rubato
I don't know all the details of the European crash test system but there certainly is one. See some details here https://www.euroncap.com/en/about-euro-ncap/timeline/. I think that, as with the US system, certain low market cars do not have to be tested. AFAIK my old Bugatti Veyron 16.4 Grand Sport Vitesse has never been crash tested which is one of the reasons I am very careful with it and just use it to go to the supermarket.

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 7:44 pm
by rubato
You know I could store that Bugatti for you. I would even drive it once in a while to keep the battery topped up and hardly ever go over the speed limit.



yrs,
rubato

Re: The future keeps getting here sooner than expected.

Posted: Sun Oct 22, 2017 10:10 pm
by Crackpot
You can avoid some or all safety requirements if your production is low enough. I believe at less than 5000 lets you slide on some regulations less than 500 let's you do away with quite a bit.