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Or has it simply aged out with changing views and values?
Animal House: Still Funny at Age 40?
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In the fall of 1977, along with the incoming class, the University of Oregon welcomed another group of fresh faces.

More than 100 Hollywood professionals—actors and gaffers, makeup artists, camera crews—arrived on campus to shoot a low-budget movie. The director was unestablished and the cast consisted mostly of young unknowns. Universal Studios allotted just $2.8 million for the picture and they wanted it made quickly.

The studio’s expectations for National Lampoon’s Animal House may have been modest, but for UO students, faculty, and staff, spending the fall term elbow-to-elbow with a Hollywood production proved to be a major event.

“At that time, we had no idea what the storyline of the movie was going to be about,” recalls David Boone, an Oregon native who was beginning his sophomore year. “All we had heard was that it was going to be set in the early 1960s. This was ’77 and we all had relatively long hair. Everybody suddenly went out and got haircuts or they tried to dress up in a period style, because people wanted to be cast in the movie. Almost overnight, the whole campus took on this retro theme.”

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The entire shoot lasted for 32 hectic days and then, as suddenly as they’d arrived, the actors and filmmakers departed for Los Angeles and New York.* * *

It was more than a hit—the rude and raunchy, low-budget comedy became a cultural event. Critics were lukewarm, but audiences ate it up. After its opening on July 28, 1978, Animal House would earn more than $140 million at the box office, becoming one of the most profitable films of all time.

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While Animal House is having a birthday, the big four-oh can be a mixed bag. And comedy has a reputation for aging less gracefully than other genres.

“The problem is the film is bad, really bad,” says Aronson. “It might be fondly remembered if you haven’t watched it in 30 years, but Animal House is awful; wildly misogynist, homophobic, and racist.”

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Its ethos was antiauthoritarian, its humor a well-deserved raspberry aimed at the smug privilege of respectable, middle-class values. The screenwriters conceived of the film as an escapist glimpse back to their own, carefree college days—in their estimation, the last era of “American innocence” before Vietnam and the political turmoil of the ’60s.

But this is a perspective of yesteryear, * * *

“Ten years ago they were more aware of it,” Roberts reflects. “But when we ask today’s students about Animal House, their response most often is, ‘What’s that?’ Their references for college life are all newer movies and shows.”

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After a recent screening in Kalapuya Ilihi residence hall, Demars and other students in the audience noted that the movie’s point-of-view always treats nonwhite people as “The Other.” They were turned off by protagonists who use terms like “homo” and “retard” as putdowns. They felt that too many of the jokes objectified women, glorified harmful behavior, or betrayed implicitly racist attitudes.

“The writers are so creative, they should be able to come up with something that will make me laugh without implying that a girl is going to be molested,” says history major Isa Ramos. “I would hope to think that we as a society have decided that certain things in that film are unacceptable.”

The feedback wasn’t all negative. Many of the jokes that hinge on pure slapstick or broad physical comedy earned chuckles from the audience. After the credits rolled, there was praise for Belushi’s performance, and they confirmed that the poster of his portrait in the COLLEGE sweatshirt still can be found hanging on dorm room walls to this day. Of course, they also enjoyed spotting campus scenery throughout the footage

However, this student audience’s final review of Animal House was tepid at best. They thought the plot was overstuffed and unstructured, and too much of the dialogue hinged on insults. They were critical of the gratuitous nudity.

More than one viewer described the film as “old fashioned”—an ominous sign with regards to any media artifact’s prospects for longevity. More ominous still, “overrated.” And finally, the judgment that is most gravely portentous for anything intended to be timeless comedy: “Not all that funny.”

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Context. It’s always critical. A number of the film’s principal creators are now deceased and can provide us with none. In its own defense, the movie offers only a classroom lecture positing that Satan is the most interesting character in Paradise Lost, plus the Delta House motto, Ars Gratia Artis—“Art for art’s sake.”

And so, like a more-dedicated student than anybody in the movie, you consider the various contexts that art and literature and history afford, and come to your informed conclusions.

Professor Aronson’s verdict: “Probably it’s best to forget Animal House, although it’s really hard not to love Otis Day and the Knights.”

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My takeaway was Faber's motto. Who can argue with that?
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Looking back I think I viewed this flick as being fun -- rather than funny. I don't think I ever laughed out loud, maybe a chuckle or two.

I'm definitely more into sketch comedy and stand-up and not so amused by physical humor. Years ago I had an unwrapped VHS copy of AH. Needing another cassette one day I taped over this movie. I'm sure what I then taped was better than the movie.
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Some of it is fun/funny but it’s most definitely racist, sexist and politically incorrect in the extreme.

I watched it dozens of times as a pre-teen because those were the days when a few cable channels re-ran the same movies multiple times a day all month long, and my brother loved the movie (he also loved Benny Hill), and my brother controlled the remote when our father wasn’t home.

I distinctly recall - a good 10 years before I ever set foot in a women’s studies course or really understood feminism, having been raised in a very traditional family with conservative values and retro gender roles - feeling very uncomfortable with how the women and girls in the film were treated.

Otis Redding and the Knights were terrific; that’s the best scene in the film.
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BoSoxGal wrote:... Otis Redding and the Knights were terrific; that’s the best scene in the film.
If only... but Redding was dead for over 10 years before this movie came out. It was Otis Day and the Knights. (Robert Cray was in it, however.)
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A lot of movies of that era were of the nerd/outcast vs. cool people genre (Revenge of the Nerds, Porky's and Sixteen Candles also come to mind), and only worked because audiences were tone deaf about racism, sexism and date rape at the time. Now they would all register as more than a little creepy.
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To answer LR’s question - no. Never. It was crude, vulgar, sexist and racist.
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I hope I never get so rigid a stick up my ass that I can't watch and enjoy a 40-year-old movie without first asking myself how it would play against modern practices and sensibilities.

Why stop with "Animal House"?  After all, "Seven Brides For Seven Brothers" romanticized marriage by abduction (sexual assault/rape, no doubt, to such sensitive flowers as Mr. Jason Stone, writer of the original article in 'The Oregon Quarterly'; but still kidnapping and assault, at the very least, to others), the perpetuation of racial/ethnic stereotypes in countless movies and cartoons from "Birth of a Nation" through Disney's "Song of the South" and "Dumbo" (remember the black crows?) and on to "The Godfather", and the not-so-subtle lessons drawn from "The Quiet Man", "Kiss Me, Kate", and "McClintock — just to name a few off the top of my head — that when dealing with a headstrong wife who refuses to stay in her place, physical measures are not only warranted but justified.

So let's just empty the studio vaults and destroy anything that offends the 2018 version of the Hays Office.
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[quote="Guinevere"It was crude, vulgar, sexist and racist.[/quote]

I must watch it!!
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Come on people...

"Spoof"..."Parody"..."Satire"...

Look them up...

And more relevant than the fact that the movie was made in 1978, is the fact that it was set in 1962...

A time when racism, sexism, and every other kind of "ism" was truly rampant...

The characters in the movie are all a collection of stereotypical caricatures...

Almost no one in the movie comes off looking "good" (except maybe Karen Allen's character) certainly not the white males...
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ah.... benny hill....

old lady races and boobies....



they even block out the boobies on Last of the Summer Wine, these days.....

porn is ok, all manner of strange and even deviant behavior is glorified, but god forbid that they show a boobie on a barbershop wall.....

men liking boobies has become the new deviancy.

strange times, strange times.......
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No no no Jim you got it all wrong. Cultural evolution must be applied retroactively otherwise we people might get the idea that society is a work in process that unfolds over time and generations. Or more to the point that someone who didn’t live up to today’s standards might still contribute to society as a whole.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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I believe I was quite clear, it wasn’t funny in 1977, viewed then. Not viewed through a more modern lens.

I didn’t find it funny in the 80s or 90s, either. Monty Python was funny (and still is). Animal House never was.
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I agree with Jim--Animal House was funny because of its racism and sexism, not inspite of it; it was the first of a number of movies that chose to push the boundaries by lampooning (see how I worked the trademark word in? :nana ) these attitudes by exaggeration. No one came off looking "good" (even the Karen Allen character fell for the crap Donald Sutherland was dishing out). to me, it's kind of like when Lenny Bruce first said "fuck" on stage--it was funny because it was outrageous, it's not as funny now. Ditto for movies like Animal House

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Gob wrote:
Guinevere wrote:It was crude, vulgar, sexist and racist.
I must watch it!!
It was intended to be. It was essentially the SNL cast getting the OK for a low-budget movie.
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Guinevere wrote:I believe I was quite clear, it wasn’t funny in 1977, viewed then. Not viewed through a more modern lens.

I didn’t find it funny in the 80s or 90s, either. Monty Python was funny (and still is). Animal House never was.
I'm just the opposite.  I found "Animal House" (and "Revenge of the Nerds", and "Porky's", and even "Meatballs") to be funny as hell while the Pythons were a hit-or-miss troupe that, in my eyes, would swing and miss far more often than they would hit.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
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It was essentially the SNL cast getting the OK for a low-budget movie.
Actually I believe that John Belushi was the only SNL cast member in the movie; Animal House's provenance goes back further...

Other National Lampoon Magazine aficionados will recall that Animal House was the big screen culmination for what had started as a series of short stories in Nat Lamp in the early 70s called Tales Of The Adelphian Lodge written by one of that magazine's founding pioneers, Chris Miller...(which he wrote drawing very loosely from his own experiences as an undergraduate at Dartmouth University in the late 50s and early 60s)...

The script for the movie was written by Miller, fellow Nat Lamp founder Doug Kenny, and Harold Ramis. It was directed by John Landis, and the casting was pitch perfect.

(All of which made it qualitatively head-and-shoulders above the quick-buck knock offs that followed...Like the Porkys and Revenge of the Nerds movies, which personally I never found to be very funny. They copied the low-brow humor aspects of the film, but had neither the skilled writing, directing and acting talent nor the detailed nuance that had been creatively developed over more than a decade that makes Animal House stand out.)
Guinevere wrote:I believe I was quite clear, it wasn’t funny in 1977, viewed then. Not viewed through a more modern lens.

I didn’t find it funny in the 80s or 90s, either. Monty Python was funny (and still is). Animal House never was.
Well, to each their own...

(I've heard that there are even some people who don't think The Honeymooners are funny, :o so there's clearly no accounting for taste... 8-) )
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Tales Of The Adelphian Lodge
Talk about vulgar and crude, most of those stories couldn't have been included in any film shown in mainstream theaters; Animal House is G-rated by comparison. I liked them as well.

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(I've heard that there are even some people who don't think The Honeymooners are funny, so there's clearly no accounting for taste... )
And I won't embarrass Gob by mentioning his name.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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"The Honeymooners"? WTF is that?
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The movie does not age well. "Caddyshack" does better. Both were written by Douglas Kenney who also started "National Lampoon". At his funeral after dying by falling off a cliff in Hawaii his friends said "he was looking for a place to jump and slipped."

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