Isn't Scooter currently a master of this event?
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Isn't Scooter currently a master of this event?
I don't know what was your alleged offense either. To wish that subjective "judged" events were excluded, leaving only objective events in which the participants themselves decided the result, is not an endorsement for the inclusion of any (or all) such objective human endeavors.
Agreed.MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:45 pmOh that is so sad. Smart folks should know that subjective is not remotely the same as objective.
Not remotely the same as a bunch of nobodies with one saying that "This dive was worth 9" while the guy sitting next to them says it was only worth 7.5. Subjective
Totally disagree, boxing is a great and noble sport.MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:45 pm
Boxing should be out too - banned from the planet for life because it's nothing short of assault with a figleaf of legality. Same category as smoking
I bet Gob will prefer original boxing - bareknuckle until someone dies
Rubbish
(And yes there are referees, umpires, linesmen, etc to enforce and interpret whether the scoring was according to the rules but no they don't decide who won by casting their votes. Except for most boxing matches)
No disrespect intended, Mr Meade, but despite the fact that the Games had been overshadowed by the kidnapping and subsequent massacre of Israeli athletes by members of the 'Black September' terrorists, how could you forget how one referee and his decisions affected the gold-medal basketball match between the US and the USSR in Munich back in 1972?MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:50 pmRubbish
To quote my earlier fulmination:
(And yes there are referees, umpires, linesmen, etc to enforce and interpret whether the scoring was according to the rules but no they don't decide who won by casting their votes. Except for most boxing matches)
Don't bother, he's shitposting.Bicycle Bill wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:19 pmNo disrespect intended, Mr Meade, but despite the fact that the Games had been overshadowed by the kidnapping and subsequent massacre of Israeli athletes by members of the 'Black September' terrorists, how could you forget how one referee and his decisions affected the gold-medal basketball match between the US and the USSR in Munich back in 1972?MajGenl.Meade wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 5:50 pmRubbish
To quote my earlier fulmination:
(And yes there are referees, umpires, linesmen, etc to enforce and interpret whether the scoring was according to the rules but no they don't decide who won by casting their votes. Except for most boxing matches)
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None taken, Mr Bill. So you're citing a referee breaking the rules to affect the result of a particular game as the equivalent of a system in which judges determine the results of ALL games rather than the participants?Bicycle Bill wrote: ↑Thu Aug 12, 2021 7:19 pmNo disrespect intended, Mr Meade, but despite the fact that the Games had been overshadowed by the kidnapping and subsequent massacre of Israeli athletes by members of the 'Black September' terrorists, how could you forget how one referee and his decisions affected the gold-medal basketball match between the US and the USSR in Munich back in 1972?
He must have noticed that there had not been any trolling in some time and decided to fill the void.Don't bother, he's shitposting.
You honestly believe that? These are not people substituting their judgement for who they'd like to win, but judges who score the performance of the athletes against a strict set of scoring rules. I know gymnastics is scored that way, and I doubt very much there is any sport in which the performance of the participants doesn't control who wins. All one has to do is listen to the commentators to see whow the rules are applied. Sure, there may be disagreements, but the judging is usually fair and objective.a system in which judges determine the results of ALL games rather than the participants?
So that's why they discard the two lowest and the two highest scores - because the judges are NEVER biased, right? It used to be the lowest and highest but evidently that still didn't discourage bloc cheating.Big RR wrote: ↑Fri Aug 13, 2021 4:01 amMeade--You honestly believe that? These are not people substituting their judgement for who they'd like to win, but judges who score the performance of the athletes against a strict set of scoring rules. I know gymnastics is scored that way, and I doubt very much there is any sport in which the performance of the participants doesn't control who wins. All one has to do is listen to the commentators to see whow the rules are applied. Sure, there may be disagreements, but the judging is usually fair and objective.a system in which judges determine the results of ALL games rather than the participants?
Yes, some judged sports do that, others not. Not sure why the ones that are judged do that. Could be to reduce bias, or could be because every judge does not see everything--kind of like when judges conference to determine if a ball (or hit or kick or whatever) is in bounds or executed properly.So that's why they discard the two lowest and the two highest scores - because the judges are NEVER biased, right? It used to be the lowest and highest but evidently that still didn't discourage bloc cheating.
In the sports which you deem are not "real" the contestants score the points as well, the judges just record them. Sure, there's a difference, but then how many times did we watch a a heat to be sure the results were "official" and the judges didn't determine that someone passed improperly in a footrace or used an improper kick during a swim race? These are supposedly objective, but are decided usually by more than one judge for the same reason.ut that's beside the point, really. The fact is, in real sports the contestants score the points, or finish first, or jump the highest, etc. They don't need judges deciding if they get 10 or 9.9