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David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:57 am
by Gob
Marks & Spencer has started giving its staff pronoun badges as part of a diversity and inclusivity initiative.
The new tags can now include the person's name, and their chosen pronouns, options of which include: 'He/Him/His', 'She/Her/Hers', and 'They/Them/Their'.
The brand's Food PR manager David Parke shared a photo of his badge in a LinkedIn post where he said they have already 'helped start some very necessary conversations around gender identity and non-binary experiences'.
Sasha Misra, associate director of communications and campaigns at Stonewall, told The Sun: 'Having pronouns on badges is a simple yet impactful way to make sure LGBTQ+ identities are respected — for employees and customers alike.'
M&S said the move is a result of staff asking for the option to include gender pronouns on their name tags.
Mr Parke's post was shared two weeks ago, on International Pronouns Day.
In it he said: 'I'm so grateful that Marks and Spencer actively encourages us to share our pronouns at work, whether on our name badges or in our email signatures.
'We introduced these new badges a few months ago (a brilliant idea from a colleague that was then implemented by Cleo and our LGBTQ+ Network).'
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:03 pm
by ex-khobar Andy
He most certainly is: he tells us so. However we have no idea (nor should we have unless he chooses to share that with us) what sex he was assigned at birth.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:08 pm
by BoSoxGal
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:47 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
One isn't assigned skin color, hair color, eye color, shape of knees, or any other feature or element of the human body. At least, not by other humans. One is not "assigned" a gender either. One merely is.
That one may feel, relate to or wish to be another gender at some later period is a matter of self-assignation
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:37 pm
by Scooter
There are many settings in which I work where everyone is encouraged to share their pronouns, either on nametags or orally. It is a way of normalizing the practice so that those whose pronouns might not be what others expect do not feel singled out in revealing them.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:52 pm
by TPFKA@W
I vote for everyone going by “it”. As in: “It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose.” #timesaver#
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:34 pm
by Joe Guy
Badges should also include age, height, weight, religious affiliation, political party, race, single, married, divorced and all vaccinations and current diseases to ensure that all aspects of a person's identity are respected.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 6:53 am
by dales
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 8:29 am
by Gob
Why is it not in Braille? Won't anyone think of the blind people!!!
ETA:
I posted that comment on a local newspaper FB article on these farcical badges, someone replied;
Jeff
I recognise people by touching their faces. I’m not blind, I just like to freak people out.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 5:43 pm
by Scooter
One organization I work with, many of whose board and staff members have chosen to disclose their pronouns. it communicates that their clients should feel comfortable sharing their pronouns, knowing that their use will be respected.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 7:46 am
by Gob
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:32 pm
by Scooter
It was not a question of previously being "hidden", but rather of everyone choosing to make them explicitly known, again, in order to normalize the practice. Those coming to the organization whose pronouns might not be obvious will not have to feel uncomfortable disclosing their pronouns if they know that everyone is doing it.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 2:46 pm
by Gob
How I think I'll always introduce myself to people from now on; "Hi, I'm Gob. I'm a man, with a willy, and I prefer sticking it in women to men."
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:23 pm
by Scooter
Sure, because that will clearly serve the same purpose of putting at ease those who will be interacting with you. When you're next down at the pub, please introduce yourself that way to a woman within the hearing of her drunken husband. Then show us the pictures of what he did to your face.
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:49 pm
by Gob
It was one of those joke things Scooter, you remember them don't you?
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:51 pm
by Crackpot
Of course putting it on a card rather than saying it out loud makes all the difference
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:52 pm
by Bicycle Bill
Scooter wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:23 pm
Then show us the pictures of what he did to your face.
Going on the basis of your avatar, Scooter, it can't be any worse than what someone did to yours
-"BB"-
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:42 am
by rubato
Gob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 9:57 am
Marks & Spencer has started giving its staff pronoun badges as part of a diversity and inclusivity initiative.
The new tags can now include the person's name, and their chosen pronouns, options of which include: 'He/Him/His', 'She/Her/Hers', and 'They/Them/Their'.
The brand's Food PR manager David Parke shared a photo of his badge in a LinkedIn post where he said they have already 'helped start some very necessary conversations around gender identity and non-binary experiences'.
Sasha Misra, associate director of communications and campaigns at Stonewall, told The Sun: 'Having pronouns on badges is a simple yet impactful way to make sure LGBTQ+ identities are respected — for employees and customers alike.'
M&S said the move is a result of staff asking for the option to include gender pronouns on their name tags.
Mr Parke's post was shared two weeks ago, on International Pronouns Day.
In it he said: 'I'm so grateful that Marks and Spencer actively encourages us to share our pronouns at work, whether on our name badges or in our email signatures.
'We introduced these new badges a few months ago (a brilliant idea from a colleague that was then implemented by Cleo and our LGBTQ+ Network).'
You really are at the cutting edge of stupid. Any time I fell obliged to fell stupid I will just remember this moment and get over it.
yrs,
rubato
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 5:33 am
by MajGenl.Meade
I think he feel into a vat of G&T
Re: David is a bloke.
Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 7:11 am
by Gob
rubato wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 4:42 am
You really are at the cutting edge of stupid. Any time I fell obliged to fell stupid I will just remember this moment and get over it.
yrs,
rubato
High quality gibberish there.
