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Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:45 pm
by Gob
THE president-elect of the American College of Surgeons has resigned after weeks of controversy surrounding a Valentine's Day editorial he wrote touting the mood-enhancing effects of semen on women during unprotected sex.

In a statement to The New York Times, Dr Lazar Greenfield said his many apologies had been ignored. ''Rather than have this remain a disruptive issue, I resigned as president-elect,'' he said. ''I only hope that those who choose to judge me will read the article in the spirit in which it was intended.''

Dr Greenfield, 78, was the editor-in-chief of Surgery News when the editorial was published but resigned that position in the wake of the controversy; the entire issue of the newspaper was withdrawn. He is an emeritus professor of surgery at the University of Michigan.
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The editorial cited research that found female college students who had unprotected sex were less depressed than those who used condoms. It speculated that compounds in semen have antidepressant effects.

''So there's a deeper bond between men and women than St. Valentine would have suspected, and now we know there's a better gift for that day than chocolates,'' it concluded.

The editorial outraged many women in the field, some of whom said that it reflected a macho culture in surgery.

Dr Barbara Bass, chairwoman of surgery at Methodist Hospital in Houston, said she was glad Dr Greenfield had resigned, despite his long history of supporting women in the profession. ''Some things you can't recover from if you're in a leadership role,'' Dr Bass said.

She said the resignation demonstrated that the surgery association's leadership ''does understand the continued challenges women face as they join and mature in the surgical profession''.

Read more: http://www.watoday.com.au/world/sex-cla ... z1K6OtdaO8
Can someone let me know why this guy had to resign?

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:50 pm
by Big RR
Perhaps it was published as a (bad) joke? It doesn't really seem to be all that serious an article.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:05 pm
by Scooter
Perhaps because it's irresponsible to appear to be advocating unprotected sex in the face of diseases that can kill you, and perhaps because heterosexual men who are already resistant to using condoms don't need to be given another excuse to forego them.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:17 pm
by Gob
The editorial cited research that found female college students who had unprotected sex were less depressed than those who used condoms. It speculated that compounds in semen have antidepressant effects.
This is surely worthy of study?

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:29 pm
by The Hen
It seems some studies have been done.

Sperm makes you happy!

It's probably all those wriggly tails.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 11:52 pm
by SisterMaryFellatio
Do the wriggly tails tickle your throat? :lol:

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:05 am
by The Hen
I'm not too sure. I know I usually have a laugh. (Particularly when Gob goes for a "pirate" shot.)

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:22 am
by Gob
The researchers think this is because mood-altering hormones in semen are absorbed through the vagina. They say they have ruled out other explanations.


"I want to make it clear that we are not advocating that people abstain from using condoms," says Gordon Gallup, the psychologist at the State University of New York who led the team. "Clearly an unwanted pregnancy or a sexually transmitted disease would more than offset any advantageous psychological effects of semen."
Interesting...

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:35 am
by Scooter
I have to wonder the circumstances under which the research was conducted. If the intention was that people would be having unprotected sex, the entire study was unethical, and all the researchers involved should be censured.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:37 am
by Gob
Eerrrmm... me and Hen have unprotected sex, lots of people do you know....

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:45 am
by Scooter
There is a difference between a long-term monogamous couple and college students who are hooking up with whomever...not sure what the rules are in your marriage for sex outside the relationship but I am assuming that if it is permitted, there is an insistence that condoms will be used.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:41 am
by loCAtek
Another thread about Gob's sex life? :roll:

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:01 am
by The Hen
Sperm makes you happy Lo. Try some. Soon.

:D

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:03 am
by Scooter
She's taking a page out edi's book in trying to create drama. Ignore the drunken whore.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:08 am
by The Hen
I still reckon she needs more sperm.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:10 am
by Gob
Scooter wrote:There is a difference between a long-term monogamous couple and college students who are hooking up with whomever...not sure what the rules are in your marriage for sex outside the relationship but I am assuming that if it is permitted, there is an insistence that condoms will be used.

Sorry, Scoot, the research I quoted is from Hen's link, not mine, I should have made that clear.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:15 am
by Scooter
Thanks, having now looked at it, it appears to be a retrospective study and so the ethical problems I raised about the study itself don't appear to exist. I'm still less than impressed with Dr. Greenfield's use of the results, however.

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:01 am
by loCAtek
Hmmm, am I a whore or do I need sperm? Oh well, betwixt the two, neither way do I need a funny bone, as I'm not that over-melodramatic. ;) :D

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:14 am
by Sean
loCAtek wrote:I'm not that over-melodramatic. ;) :D
Now THAT'S funny! :lol:

Re: Condom conundrum....

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:25 pm
by quaddriver
The Hen wrote:Sperm makes you happy Lo. Try some. Soon.

:D
gobs?