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Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:00 pm
by Scooter
Aside from Silvio's shenanigans, of course...
I forget sometimes how socially retrograde Italy can be for a first world country. First in
Catania, and now in
Brindisi, gay men have been denied the renewal of their driver's licence on the basis that their sexual orientation could result in "pathologies that could impair driving safety". Like what? Wrists too limp to handle the steering wheel?
The latest case come about in spite of the fact that in the Catania case, courts have already ruled that it constituted discrimination and ordered the Ministries of Defense (which was the source of the info about the men's sexual orientation) and Transport to pay damages.
Apologies for the Italian sources; I haven't searched to see if it has been reported in English language press.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:01 pm
by Scooter
And then there was
this idiocy:
Superstitious Italians leave Rome over mega quake prediction
ROME—More than 22 earthquakes struck Italy by noon Wednesday, as is normal for the quake-prone country. But none was the devastating temblor purportedly predicted by a now-dead scientist to strike Rome. (ed. - none of the tremors occurred anywhere near Rome)
Despite efforts by seismologists to debunk the myth of a major Roman quake on May 11, 2011 and stress that quakes can never be predicted, some Romans left town just in case, spurred by rumour-fueled fears that ignore science.
Many storefronts were shuttered, for example, in a neighbourhood of Chinese-owned shops near Rome’s central train station. And an agriculture farm lobby group said a survey of farm-hotels outside the capital indicated some superstitious Romans had headed to the countryside for the day.
The fears are all thanks to a purported prediction of a major Roman quake Wednesday attributed to self-taught seismologist Raffaele Bendandi, who died in 1979.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:54 pm
by Gob
What can you expect of a country where catholicism is the dominant superstition?
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 10:37 pm
by Joe Guy
Scooter wrote:gay men have been denied the renewal of their driver's licence on the basis that their sexual orientation could result in "pathologies that could impair driving safety".
And those Eye-Talians are right...
By their very nature, gay men are much more likely than a heterosexual to enter an exit.
Or tailgate.
Or give the wrong signal.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:13 am
by Scooter
Joe Guy wrote:By their very nature, gay men are much more likely than a heterosexual to enter an exit.
I've heard gay men refer to someone as having a certain part of the anatomy as wide as the Holland Tunnel, but I've never heard of anyone trying to navigate it in an automobile.

Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 12:22 am
by Joe Guy
How about in the back seat of an automobile?....

Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:38 am
by loCAtek
Gob wrote:What can you expect of a country where catholicism is the dominant superstition?
Um, but Raffaele Bendandi claimed these were scientific seismic predictions, not religious prophecies.
No religion mentioned in the topic, but he's gotta bash it
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:46 am
by Sean
Unless of course Strop was referring to the OP...

Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 2:58 am
by loCAtek
How so?
First in Catania, and now in Brindisi, gay men have been denied the renewal of their driver's licence on the basis that their sexual orientation could result in "pathologies that could impair driving safety".
I've re-read it and still don't see anything religious in it.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:02 am
by Sean
You don't see that the Italian's discrimation against homosexuals could possibly have anything to do with their overwhelmingly Catholic mores?
Just because it's not spelled out doesn't mean that it's not a reasonable conclusion to draw.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:12 am
by loCAtek
It's possible, but sexual discrimination is practiced by many religions and by atheists, so why blame a group that wasn't mentioned? That's almost religious discrimination.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 3:16 am
by loCAtek
Translated from Scooters link;
The story took off from the tour of military service. Physicians in Augusta, near Syracuse, Giuffrida declared his homosexuality. The military hospital informed the DMV that the civil young man was not in possession of "psycho-physical requirements required" and suspended the license pending a review of eligibility. Giuffrida, Giuseppe Lipera by the lawyer, appealed to the TAR of Catania, who suspended the measure saying that homosexuality "can not be considered a mental illness." At the same time filed a claim for damages from € 500 000 to the Ministries of Defense and Transport getting in first instance, the payment of € 100 000, later reduced on appeal to 20 000.
The claim is psycho-babble surely, but where is the basis in religion?
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 6:42 am
by The Hen
Of course gay men can't drive. They are always trying to bum a lift.

Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 11:20 pm
by Joe Guy
The Hen wrote:Of course gay men can't drive. They are always trying to bum a lift.

Or lift a bum.
Re: Why I'm sometimes embarrassed to admit I'm Italian
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:30 pm
by Beer Sponge
Joe Guy wrote:The Hen wrote:Of course gay men can't drive. They are always trying to bum a lift.

Or lift a bum.
I've heard they can really handle a stick!
