What's a couple of year between mates?

[Gob]

New life expectancy figures show Americans some way behind countries like Canada, the UK and Australia. Why?

Living in the world's richest country comes at a price, and it's measured in life years.

Men in the US are on average aged 75 when they die. That is 1.5 years younger than men in the UK and 3.5 years younger than men in Australia, says a new study.

American women live on average to just under 81 - about three years younger than the average Australian woman.



While life expectancy in the US continues to improve, says the report by researchers at University of Washington in Seattle and Imperial College, London, it is not increasing as quickly as in other Western countries, so the gap is widening.

"The researchers suggest that the relatively low life expectancies in the US cannot be explained by the size of the nation, racial diversity, or economics," says the document, which ranks the US 38th in the world for life expectancy overall.

"Instead, the authors point to high rates of obesity, tobacco use and other preventable risk factors for an early death as the leading drivers of the gap between the US and other nations."

"We weren't surprised that we had lower life expectancies than other countries, but we were surprised by the fact that we were falling further behind," says Dr Ali Mokdad, professor of global health at the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation at the University of Washington.

Take a country like Australia, he says. "It also has a nation of immigrants. It also is a relatively young country. It has similar socioeconomic characteristics.

"It has an obesity problem, and yet it has continued to improve in life expectancy and remains one of the healthiest nations in the world."

So how should the US address these risk factors?

Smoking alone is responsible for one out of every five deaths in the US, the professor says, yet the US has not been as tough as Australia in restricting tobacco advertising and public smoking.

Australia also has a greater focus on primary care - which helps with health education, and early treatment of any problems - and it has done a good job reducing the number of road traffic accidents, he adds.

The US could also save 100,000 lives a year by reducing salt in people's diets, since high blood pressure kills one in six people, Dr Mokdad says.

Then there's the big issue - about one in three adults is classified as obese. That's about 10 times as many as in long-living countries like Japan, according to OECD figures.

But the US is a big country, and while parts of Mississippi have a male life expectancy of 67, behind nations like the Philippines, women in areas of Florida live as long, on average, as the Japanese, who top the longevity rankings.

It is precisely this kind of inequality that goes some way to explain why the US - and the UK to a lesser degree - lag behind other countries, according to Danny Dorling, a professor of human geography at the University of Sheffield in the UK.

He believes a more even distribution of wealth, even if the average were lower, could mean longer lives for everyone.

"I think stress is a part of it - this is the key thesis of Michael Marmot and his book on the status syndrome. People get worn out faster with greater inequality.

"However there is much more. If you have most health spending just going on a few people who have the best health to begin with - [as in] the US system - that is hardly efficient.

"In a more unequal rich country more doctors are working on things like plastic surgery. More dentists whiten teeth than fix bad teeth and so on."

While it is not surprising that poor Americans lose out from inequality, Prof Dorling argues that the rich may suffer too.

"Top income groups are badly affected because their doctors are not necessarily mainly interested in their health but work for organisations that have to make an income," he says.

"I am not suggesting it is deliberate but you make more money out of a patient who spends more on many drugs and investigatory operations than one who lives longer with less intervention.

"In a more equal system the rich who are well get less intervention - and they live longer in the UK than the US."

Growing income inequality in the UK, since the 1970s, has has helped to push it down the European life expectancy rankings, says Mr Dorling.

However, life expectancy is not just about forecasts made for newborn babies.

When you look at life expectancy at 65 or 75, the US performs rather well, says Svetlana Ukraintseva, senior investigator at the Center for Population Health and Aging (CPHA) at Duke University in North Carolina.

Elderly Americans have a higher chance of surviving heart disease and many cancers than their counterparts in other rich countries, she says. Where the US lags behind is what happens at a much younger age.

"It's likely not the quality of medical care itself that is the problem but access to it. Medical insurance for all might help."

This is one goal of the healthcare reform signed into law in March 2010, which will oblige American adults to have health insurance when it comes into force in 2014.

However, this remains a controversial idea in the US and the legislation could yet come unstuck.

Challenges to the constitutionality of the law are working their way through the courts, and fierce opponents in the Republican Party make no secret of their desire to repeal the legislation if the opportunity arises.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14070090

At first glance it seems shocking (and disheartening I should imagine for our American chums,) but really? Am I going to live longer than say Jim or O-n-W, who are contemporaries of mine. Surely lifestyle factors are more important than where you abide?

[Long Run]

No, it is a patriotic duty to die younger here to aid in the solvency of Social Security and Medicare.

[Long Run]

But seriously, in all the other studies of this type I have seen, the major difference is child mortality. More infants dying greatly lowers the average age of death. When you get middle aged farts like us, the numbers draw closer, and an active person here will live about as long as an active person there. It may be that having a significant percentage of population not insured (about 10-15%) also results in a lack of preventative care, that will lead to higher mortality rates in adults. Sorry, you'll have to put up with most or all of us for a few more years, at the least.

[Gob]

I can live with that....

[oldr_n_wsr]

Am I going to live longer than say Jim or O-n-W, who are contemporaries of mine. Surely lifestyle factors are more important than where you abide?

Not if you don't learn how to ride a motorcycle.

Well, having quit drinking and am starting on another round of chantix in a week (I went back to smoking, about a month and a half ago, when I was having some difficulty with the not drinking) my lifestyle should be improving, at least regarding the poisons I was puting into it.

Had a checkup yesterday and my BP was 127/60 and the EKG was fine as were my lungs (x-ray and stethescope). I did have a little high sugar count the last time I went so he is checking into that again. Cholesterol was fine last time, very high good ch.. and ok bad ch...

I try and walk at least a mile every day. I know it should be more but I get bored sh!&less walking.

[Gob]

Am I going to live longer than say Jim or O-n-W, who are contemporaries of mine. Surely lifestyle factors are more important than where you abide?

Not if you don't learn how to ride a motorcycle.

Ouch!!

Had a checkup yesterday and my BP was 127/60 and the EKG was fine as were my lungs (x-ray and stethescope). I did have a little high sugar count the last time I went so he is checking into that again. Cholesterol was fine last time, very high good ch.. and ok bad ch...

I'm due one next week, a bloods test taht is, will feed back if good, lie though my teeth if not.

I try and walk at least a mile every day. I know it should be more but I get bored sh!&less walking.

I'm the opposite, the one thing I've missed most since my accident is my hour + of walking with my dogs each morning.