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Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:37 pm
by Gob
The average wage in Canberra has now hit more than $83,000 a year, and is accelerating faster than anywhere else in the country, new figures show.
Data from the Australian Bureau of Statistics published today show that the average weekly wage for an adult working full time, not including overtime, in Canberra was a seasonally adjusted $1602.50, or $83,330 a year, in the May quarter.
That is a 3 per cent increase on the three months to February, the biggest rise in the country, and much faster than the 0.4 per cent increase for the nation as a whole. Annual growth is the second highest, behind the Northern Territory.
Nationally, the average wage is $70,262 a year, or $1351 a week. People working in the public sector continue to earn more than those in the private sector, bringing home $75,426 and $68,853 a year respectively.
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Both men and women have higher average wages in the ACT than any other jurisdiction.
Men in Canberra bring home an average $88,608 a year, or $1704 a week, and women get $76,861, or $1478 a week. These are 8.1 per cent and 5.4 per cent higher than a year ago, respectively.
Nationally, miners continue to have the biggest pay packets and they are growing faster than in most other sectors. Miners earn an average $118,160 a year, up 7.1 per cent on a year ago in unadjusted terms.
People working in the wholesale trade, up 8.9 per cent to $71,911, and transport, postal and warehousing, up 9.7 per cent to $70,918, industries also recorded big increases in average pay.
Conversely, average pays fell in the health care and social assistance and manufacturing sectors. Health care and social assistance workers' average pay dropped 1.2 per cent to $64,464, and in the manufacturing sector wages were down 0.4 per cent to $61,074 – close to half a miner's average pay packet.
Wages were also effectively unchanged, at $60,892, in the arts and recreation industry.
By comparison, prices increased by 1.2 per cent in the year to July, according to the latest consumer price index.
The Federal Government will fast-track the assessment process for skilled US workers coming to Australia.
Under the agreement, US tradespeople will able to complete a skills assessment before coming to Australia.
It will mean faster processing times for 457 visa applicants and better job security for US workers wanting to come here.
Immigration Minister Chris Bowen says it is important for Australia to attract workers with the right skills.
"There are economies and countries around the world which are facing very difficult and different circumstances to ours," he said.
"What's appropriate is that we work together with those countries to ensure that skilled workers who are looking for work have the capacity to fill some of those gaps we are facing in Australia."
The changes are designed to deal with the skills shortage in the construction and resources industries.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:56 pm
by dgs49
Not to nit-pick, but I wonder how they have calculated "average." Mean, median, or mode, or something else?
Regardless, that is an astounding number (haven't checked the exchange rate) for an AVERAGE. If you take out the low-skilled people, it would be much higher, eh?
What language do they speak in Canberra? Could they use a generic office slacker?
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:15 pm
by Gob
$83,000 Au = £55,074.32 = $86,459.43 US
Both Hen and I earn more than the average.
We speak a version of English. But we have enough office slackers Dave, and I'm not retiring for another couple of year at least, so you cannot have my job.

Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 9:21 pm
by Lord Jim
We speak a version of English.
Well, only just...

Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 11:01 pm
by dales
They drive on the wrong side of the road and talk funny.
Other than that, if I could snag a fat Aussie pension...
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:17 am
by Rick
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 12:59 am
by The Hen
Highest wages, highest petrol costs, highest food costs, highest housing costs.
Highest altitude city as well.
We are all high here in Canberra.
Everything balances out in the end.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 1:02 am
by The Hen
This is another of those "subtle" Canberra bashing articles that I warned you wasrevalent before you came out here Gob.
Now everyone hates me for my pay packet, but chances are they may even be better off than me.
Though I have no plans to leave until I get that big fat pension.
It will actually count for something when I move.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:18 am
by rubato
Short change compared to Norway:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/busin ... wanted=all
"...
Norway’s oil and gas workers are already among the world’s best paid, making an average of $157,000 a year, according to the industry association. And while offshore laborers
work only about 16 weeks a year, they cite tough conditions in their call for an earlier retirement age.
... "
$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker with only 4 weeks off a year.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:22 am
by rubato
Canberra altitude = 606 meters. 1987 feet. ?? Not what anyone would call high.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:23 am
by Gob
rubato wrote:Short change compared to Norway:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/busin ... wanted=all
"...
Norway’s oil and gas workers are already among the world’s best paid, making an average of $157,000 a year, according to the industry association. And while offshore laborers
work only about 16 weeks a year, they cite tough conditions in their call for an earlier retirement age.
... "
$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker with only 4 weeks off a year.
yrs,
rubato
Why would "$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker"? That makes no sense.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:24 am
by Gob
rubato wrote:Canberra altitude = 606 meters. 1987 feet. ?? Not what anyone would call high.
That is why nobody called it "high" retard.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:28 am
by Gob
Meanwhile, back on planet sane;
Even in this dry season, with its generous parks and open space browned off by months without rain, Darwin is a picture to behold. Looking out over the Arafura Sea, towards an Asia that increasingly is its natural economic fit and bathed in unfailing 30-degree temperatures and azure skies, Australia's most northern capital projects a calm nonchalance, a sort of manana without the sense of urgency, an ideal antidote to the rip and rush of southern life.
It's a picture that belies reality, however. The Northern Territory, and particularly its capital, is being asked to make its most dramatic shift since cyclone Tracy flattened Darwin on Christmas Eve, 1974.
The lifestyle for which so many Darwinites chose to eschew points south and to take up residence remote from family, friends and past is under challenge by resource-mania, a headlong rush to grab some of the spoils lavished for decades on the neighbours to the west and the east - Western Australia and Queensland.
A $34 billion investment is in progress to pump gas condensate 885 kilometres from the Browse Basin off the Kimberley coast to Darwin, where it can be converted to liquefied natural gas (LNG) for shipping to Japan. The Ichthys project, by its Japanese owner Inpex, comes on top of the existing ConocoPhillips onshore processing of gas from the Timor Sea, and is the heftiest addition to a grand plan to make Darwin a rival to the North West Shelf as a gas hub. For all of Darwin's false starts, for all the hype over three decades, that Darwin was about to score a future beyond the roles of northern administrator and defence bulwark (it's biggest employers), Darwin's time in the economic glow of what Australia does best may eventually have arrived.
Darwin incomes have a healthy premium above the national average but housing affordability is every bit the nightmare of Sydney and other costs of living reflect its isolation and lack of competition.
Chris Delaney shifted from Melbourne for two years to practise law and for his wife, Lynette, to teach. That was 22 years ago. A Vietnam veteran who serves in Norforce, a mostly Aboriginal reservist outfit, he argues appalling indigenous living conditions will remain while education in remote communities sticks with priorities not sensitive to cultural need. But his experience is positive. "My wife describes it as a Victorian country town with palm trees. It's got a vibrant social life, emphasising the outdoors, and it's a great place to raise kids,'' he says.
"A dining experience here used to be a lump of steak, but international cuisine influences are now everywhere." Darwin has 56 nationalities. It's where the first boat people arrived and where many asylum seekers are incarcerated, and it was the destination for many fleeing East Timorese. Perhaps Barack Obama's visit to Darwin last November, when he saluted the arrival of the first of 2500 US marines, aroused a sense of Darwin's national significance. Or perhaps it was the summit last month with the Indonesian President, Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who joked Darwin was a fitting venue given that most Indonesians' impression of Australia was formed watching Crocodile Dundee.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:45 am
by Rick
rubato wrote:Canberra altitude = 606 meters. 1987 feet. ?? Not what anyone would call high.
yrs,
rubato
Maybe however it is the highest in NSW...
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:46 am
by The Hen
Rube, I was referring to it being the highest altitude city in Australia. I didn't put "Australia" in my statement, I thought that was obvious.
And in case you thought I consider it a high altitude city, I do not, I was simply waxing lyrically about things that were "high" in Canberra.
As for Norway having higher wages, well that is irrelevant as well, isn't it.
Now back in your box thanks.

Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:07 am
by rubato
The Hen wrote:Highest wages, highest petrol costs, highest food costs, highest housing costs.
Highest altitude city as well.
We are all high here in Canberra.
Everything balances out in the end.
Trouble reading again?
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:09 am
by rubato
Gob wrote:rubato wrote:Short change compared to Norway:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/10/busin ... wanted=all
"...
Norway’s oil and gas workers are already among the world’s best paid, making an average of $157,000 a year, according to the industry association. And while offshore laborers
work only about 16 weeks a year, they cite tough conditions in their call for an earlier retirement age.
... "
$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker with only 4 weeks off a year.
yrs,
rubato
Why would "$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker"? That makes no sense.
Paying $157,000 for 16 weeks work makes no sense" ???
That was the point. Slow today?
yrs,
rubato
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:26 am
by Gob
No, (I'll type this very slowly for you) your assertion that "$157,000/ yr for 16 weeks = $471,000/yr for a US worker"[sic] makes no sense.
Can you substantiate it?
Are you saying that an American worker on a Norwegian oil rig would work for a full year and only have 4 weeks off?
How?
Why?
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:32 am
by Gob
rubato wrote:The Hen wrote:Highest wages, highest petrol costs, highest food costs, highest housing costs.
Highest altitude city as well.
We are all high here in Canberra.
Everything balances out in the end.
Trouble reading again?
yrs,
rubato
Oh god, someday, someone, will sit you down and explain the joke thet was made...
Highest wages, highest petrol costs, highest food costs, highest housing costs.
Highest altitude city as well.
We are all high here in Canberra.
Poor retard, I cannot imagine how it must be for him, what with him being that humour retarded.
Re: Nice money if you can get it
Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:38 am
by The Hen
Rube you twat. I even explained that this was all in reference to Australia.
That is what the article is about. Canberra having the highest wages in Australia.
Canberra is also the highest city in Australia. I did not reference Australia because I thought all would understand. particularly as you pointed out, we are hardly a high city.
Now be a good boy and pull your head in and stop trying to score a point with me.
You are appearing foolish.
