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70's style

Advice for the students of 1972:

ACCOMMODATION: 'In halls of residence, students usually have their own study bedrooms and they are provided with most meals. The halls also provide libraries and common rooms for recreation. The rest live in lodging accommodation, commonly known as digs.'

ENTERTAINMENT: 'University socials organise regular mid-week discos for students and arrange bands for each weekend.'

RAG WEEK: 'Among the stunts there are street plays, the five-legged race, and of course the annual battle of the presidents between the presidents of Umist union and Owens union. The ammunition is canteen waste...'

COSTS: Free, plus annual grant of £450.

To study at University of Manchester now you need £9000 per year tuition fees and at least £1000 per year for accomodation.

To do this you can either get it all paid for by your mum and dad or hock your life to the student loan company for the next 30 years.

The days of Rik, Vivian, Neil and perpetual student Mike are well and truly done.

70's style

Yeah, that's definitely got that That 70's Show thing going on....

Daisy wrote:To study at University of Manchester now you need £9000 per year tuition fees and at least £1000 per year for accomodation.

To do this you can either get it all paid for by your mum and dad or hock your life to the student loan company for the next 30 years.

The days of Rik, Vivian, Neil and perpetual student Mike are well and truly done.

£9000 per year tuition fees and at least £1000 per year for accomodation.
$14400 per year tuition fees and at least $1600 per year for accomodation.

$1,600 per year to live on? Wow! How do they do that?

yrs,
rubato

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Cheaper than 1 year at the University of California (the most important university system in the world in patents, Nobel prizes &c.) but more than 1 year at 'Cal State'.

On the whole I think it is fair to expect that those who benefit personally from a University education should pay a significant part of it. We can argue about exactly where that line is.

yrs,
rubato

Top 100 World Universities
1 Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) United States

2 University of Cambridge United Kingdom

3 Harvard University United States

4 UCL (University College London) United Kingdom

5 University of Oxford United Kingdom

6 Imperial College London United Kingdom

7 Yale University United States

8 University of Chicago United States

9 Princeton University United States

10 California Institute of Technology (Caltech) United States
windupretard Unihttp://www.topuniversities.com/universi ... kings/2012

Nobels by Insitution 1. Cambridge: 88 (11% of all winners) 2. University of Chicago: 87 (11% of all winners) 3. Columbia: 86 (11% of all winners) 4. MIT: 78 (9% of all winners) 5. Berkeley: 70 (8% of all winners) 6. Oxford: 56 7. Stanford: 55 8. University of Heidelberg: 54 9. (tie) Yale: 48 9. (tie) Harvard: 48

Wow, rube got something wrong....

What a rarity....

They are counting Nobels by people 'affiliated' with the institution which means that 1 nobelist can be counted by many institutions by getting his/her bachelors at one, doctorate at another, post-graduate work at yet another, teaching and doing research at still more.

MIT only claims 30 Nobels by MIT researchers not 70, for example.
UC Berkeley only claims 22 which is also not 70.


I was talking about The University of California however, not just one campus. One of the measures of the greatness of UC is that unlike the private colleges it has grown with the population of California. Privates, like MIT, Harvard have only grown slightly and so do a poorer job educating a smaller and smaller fraction of those who are eligible.

from the wiki site gob copied from and didn't acknowledge:
"... The University of California is also counted here by its individual campuses. The university as a whole is affiliated with a total of 107 Nobel Laureates.... "

107 > 88 . and 13% of all winners.

UC overall has 58 Nobels using a more honest standard.

UC is the most important University in the world, overall. The University rankings always rate each campus separately.

Rubato appears to be right again, and more honest with the data.

yrs,
rubato

Anyone quoting my post will see my intent.

Oh, and WTF does any Uni being "better" than any other, have to do here? It's just the retard showing his childishness again.

Anyone seeing your post will realize that you lied about what the wiki site said.

yrs,
rubato

What was my "lie" retard?

Gob wrote:What was my "lie" retard?

go re-read the thread and figure it out.

You have been wrong so often lately that you bore me.

Go read some Heinrich Boll before you flap your gums about that while you're at it.

yrs,
rubato

Well now, seeing as my only comment with regard to the wiki site IS A DIRECT VERBATIM QUOTE OF THE FIRST LINE OF THAT SITE PAGE, I guess we can all take it that you've just shat the bed once more.

Gob wrote:Well now, seeing as my only comment with regard to the wiki site IS A DIRECT VERBATIM QUOTE OF THE FIRST LINE OF THAT SITE PAGE, I guess we can all take it that you've just shat the bed once more.

I guess the fact that you ignored information on that very website which proved I was right was either dishonesty or being slovenly with the truth.

Either way you're either incompetent or a liar.


yrs,
rubatoo

I posted what I posted, with a link to the site so that others could make their own mind up.

rubato wrote:Anyone seeing your post will realize that you lied about what the wiki site said.

Now, then, how could that be "a lie"? Where did I lie? I posted a direct quote, and linked to the original site, so how could that be a lie.




And I ask again, why are you so childish as to try to introduce this "most important" idea? What possible bearing does that have on anything?

Sorry?

Student life in Manchester has what to do with the number of Nobel praises won by other Universities?

Is this why student life in Manchester has changed so much since the 70s?

I never knew that.

It all comes back to Heinrich Boll Hen. Can't you see the obvious connection?

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