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No Smart Cheese

Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:51 pm
by Gob
Police have told an elderly grandmother she must not make a massive Double Gloucester wheel for locals to chase down a hill at a popular event - because she could be liable for any injuries.




Farmer Diana Smart, 86, of Churcham, Gloucestershire, has been making a special hand-made wheel of cheese for the Cooper's Hill Cheese-Rolling and Wake, which sees daredevils chasing cheese down the 200-yard Cooper's Hill near Brockworth, for a quarter of a century.

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A one-foot-wide cheese wheel is rolled down the hill - followed by brave competitors who risk life and limb to chase it and reach the bottom first.

Injuries suffered at the cheese rolling including broken arms, legs and even backs. Following health and safety fears 2009 was the last official cheese rolling event - but unofficially the event is still held every year, without proper medical cover or insurance.

But Mrs Smart, who has provided the large piece of cheese since 1988, has now been warned off doing so for this year's race on Monday - after a visit by three police officers. They visited her farm and told her not to donate five 8lb wheels of her cheese in a bid to prevent the 'dangerous' event.

She was warned she could be liable for anybody injured - and so has pulled out. It is the first time in its 200-year history that police have banned a cheesemaker providing the cheese - leaving organisers considering using something else instead.


Mrs Smart said the 'heavy-handed' police visited her home last week and told in a 'threatening' manner she would be responsible for any injuries caused. She said: 'We are not allowed to give them cheese this year. The police came to my farm and said it could cause us an enormous amount of damages.

'I just have to take it as they have said. We cannot do anything about it. It's crackers the fact that the police came round and warned me not to give the event some cheese.' She added: 'I like doing it, it's always brought me such joy and a smile. The police were so heavy-handed. 'They threatened me, saying I would be wholly responsible if anyone got injured. I'm 86, I don't have the will or the cash to fight any lawsuits. It's crazy.

'I really don't know if anyone will step up to the plate and provide them with a cheese. 'It's such a shame - the police are using scare tactics on businesses because they can't break the will of the locals.'

The event sees runners reach speeds of up to 70mph as they hurtle down the steep slope after the rolling cheese.
There are five races - three for men, one for women, and one safer uphill chase for children. Organisers of the annual spectacle said they will defy any bid to stop the race happening. A spokesperson said: 'It's outrageous. Completely unbelievable. You cannot stop someone selling cheese. 'If they try to stop us, we will use something else or get some cheese elsewhere.'

A Gloucestershire police spokesman confirmed Diana had been given 'advice'. He said: 'Advice has been given to all those who have participated in any planning of an unofficial cheese rolling event this coming bank holiday.

'This included the individuals who provide the cheese. We feel it is important that those who, by law, could be constituted as organisers of the event are aware of the responsibilities that come with it so that they can make an informed decision about their participation.'

Matthew Sinclair, chief executive of the TaxPayers' Alliance, slammed the police for threatening Mrs Smart.
He said: 'Taxpayers will be appalled that the valuable time of three police officers was wasted trying to scare an elderly lady into withdrawing her involvement in a centuries-old tradition. 'People expect the police to be keeping us safe and solving crime, not badgering innocent old ladies. 'Anyone participating in the cheese-rolling needs to take personal responsibility for themselves and the idea that Diana Smart should be liable for any injuries is frankly ludicrous.'

Mrs Smart sells her traditionally-made cheeses at farmers' markets and luxury grocers Fortnum and Mason.






Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:58 am
by Gob
There was no need for the police to be so incendairy.

All the competitors are cheesed off. It's back to the daily rind for them. Life isn't so grate for them now.

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:54 am
by Joe Guy
"Runners reach speeds of up to 70 mph"?

There's something stinky about that cheese run.

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 2:56 am
by Crackpot
I doubt what they're doing at that moment could be considered "running".

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:40 am
by Andrew D
Doesn't the UK have waivers?

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 3:51 am
by Gob
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"Over here!"
Sorry, couldn't resist!

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 5:54 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
All someone has to do is go "buy" the cheese from her. She can set the rate at 1cent (or whatever the lowest coin happens to be over there). No liability for her as it is no longer her cheese.

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 9:32 pm
by Gob
Nice point O-n-W.

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 12:38 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Well AFAIK the police could not have been involved in warning her about a civil case (getting sued). They could only issue her a warning in connection with a criminal prosecution. If she subsequently sold her cheese for 1p, she could presumably still be charged with something - conspiracy to subvert justice, aiding in the commission of a crime, whatever. If she sold her cheese for the normal price (or if the tumble organizers purchased from one of the farm stalls that she sells to) then they'd have a had time making a charge stick. Let's face it, they could buy wheels of cheese in many places. I think this is a wedge issue. First the cheese, tomorrow the artificial rabbit hare and then how many greyhounds will need to be saved?

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 2:36 pm
by Joe Guy
I may be going on a limburger here but if you were to teleme this thread would string into a punny cheese thread, I would have thought we'd have all known butter by now (I dairy say).

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 9:03 pm
by Lord Jim
Police have told an elderly grandmother she must not make a massive Double Gloucester wheel for locals to chase down a hill at a popular event - because she could be liable for any injuries.
Where's Scooter?

There's no one around better at weighing in to defend the indefensible than he is... :P

I'm waiting for him to say something like:

"That old hag should have known better. A double rind of cheese that size is obviously a public menace. The wise public servants here clearly made the right call by shutting her down. Civil liability should be the least of her worries; this trouble making old broad should be tossed in the slammer..."

8-)

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 12:49 pm
by Sue U
A one-foot-wide cheese wheel is rolled down the hill - followed by brave apparently brain-damaged competitors who risk life and limb to chase it and reach the bottom first.
Fixed
Injuries suffered at the cheese rolling including broken arms, legs and even backs. Following health and safety fears 2009 was the last official cheese rolling event - but unofficially the event is still held every year, without proper medical cover or insurance.
Do you really think NHS -- and the British taxpayer -- should be on the hook for these idiots' self-inflicted injuries?
She was warned she could be liable for anybody injured
As they say in the UK, "Not bloody likely."
Mrs Smart said the 'heavy-handed' police visited her home last week and told in a 'threatening' manner she would be responsible for any injuries caused. She said: 'We are not allowed to give them cheese this year. The police came to my farm and said it could cause us an enormous amount of damages.

'I just have to take it as they have said. We cannot do anything about it. It's crackers the fact that the police came round and warned me not to give the event some cheese.' She added: 'I like doing it, it's always brought me such joy and a smile. The police were so heavy-handed. 'They threatened me, saying I would be wholly responsible if anyone got injured. I'm 86, I don't have the will or the cash to fight any lawsuits. It's crazy.
"Crazy" is right, and you really have to wonder whether anything like that was actually said at all. Hell, not even I would say that; it's patently untrue. And if she's operating a cheese-making business, she has (or properly should have) liability insurance that would provide a defense to any lawsuit and compensation for injuries if she were found culpable. (And even if she were, I'm sure the Daily Fail would put a stop to that. :roll: ) I wouldn't touch a liability case out of this event -- even with tongs and wearing a hazmat suit.
Lord Jim wrote:Where's Scooter?

There's no one around better at weighing in to defend the indefensible than he is... :P
What am I, chopped liver?

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 1:04 pm
by Lord Jim
Sue U wrote:
Lord Jim wrote:Where's Scooter?

There's no one around better at weighing in to defend the indefensible than he is... :P
What am I, chopped liver?
I stand corrected... :mrgreen:

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:13 pm
by Gob
Sue U wrote:
Injuries suffered at the cheese rolling including broken arms, legs and even backs. Following health and safety fears 2009 was the last official cheese rolling event - but unofficially the event is still held every year, without proper medical cover or insurance.
Do you really think NHS -- and the British taxpayer -- should be on the hook for these idiots' self-inflicted injuries?
They are for every other idiot's self inflicted injuries, why discriminate? :D

Re: No Smart Cheese

Posted: Mon May 27, 2013 10:34 pm
by Gob
Thousands of people have gathered in Gloucestershire for the traditional cheese-rolling races on Cooper's Hill.

The unofficial event has taken place despite warnings from police that organisers could be liable for legal action in the event of an incident.

An estimated 3,000 people turned out to watch thrill-seekers chasing a foam copy of a double Gloucester cheese.

The tradition, which takes place near Brockworth, Gloucester, dates back to at least the early 19th Century.

This year organisers replaced the cheese with the lightweight foam version in order to make the downhill race safer.

Winner of the first race, Kenny Rackers, 27 - an estate agent from Colorado Springs in the US - said he came over especially for the event, a journey of some 4,000 miles (6,400km).

"I trained a long time for this and got hurt on the hill practising. I came three days early and I took a bad spill, but I came to win and that's what I did," he said.

"I came 3,000 or 4,000 miles just for this race. I put it on my bucket list and today it was to win and that's what I did."

The second race was won by Australian traveller Caleb Stalder, who is currently living in London.

"You can't control yourself whatsoever so it's a case of rolling down and seeing where you end up," said the 30-year-old, from Taree near Newcastle in New South Wales.

"I can't believe I got the cheese. It's awesome. I wasn't anywhere near being first down and the cheese took a bit of a turn and I caught it," he added.

The women's race and third men's race were won by competitors from Brockworth with the fourth race won by a man from Japan who had dressed as a ninja.

Some 15,000 people turned out for the last official event in 2009, sparking concern over numbers as Cooper's Hill is said to be suitable for about a third of that number.

Every year since then unofficial races have been organised during the late spring bank holiday by local enthusiasts.

Gloucestershire Police confirmed earlier it had given advice to those who took part in planning the unofficial event.

"We feel it is important that those who, by law, could be constituted as organisers of the event, that they are aware of the responsibilities that come with it so that they can make an informed decision about their participation," a force spokesperson said.