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A Little Gay History
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 10:12 pm
by Gob
The British Museum has launched a guide focusing on elements of homosexuality to be found in its collection.
A Little Gay History draws on objects ranging from ancient Egyptian papyri and the erotic scenes on the Roman Warren Cup to images by David Hockney.
Written by curator Richard Parkinson, it explores artistic portrayals of what it means to be gay and the difficulties in finding records of same-sex desire.
The guide is accompanied by an audio trail featuring Simon Russell Beale.
Timed to tie in with the London Pride festival, which takes place next week, the podcast - which also features artist Maggi Hambling and writer Kate Smith - discusses a number of key objects in the Museum's collection from ancient to modern times.
"Museums have always been very important spaces for people to consider their own sexual identity," explained Mr Parkinson - curator in the ancient Egypt department - in the guide.
"Most museums have collections of Greek and Roman statues which show men looking very naked, so for men who desired other men it was one of the few spaces where they could look at naked male bodies in a culturally respectable sort of way."
The project began with Same-sex desire and gender identity, launched as part of LGBT History Month in 2010.
It has since been developed into Mr Parkinson's book, and recognises the importance of gay role models throughout history.
Emperor Hadrian
Visitor surveys for the British Museum's exhibition on the Roman emperor Hadrian in 2008, found that few people knew that Hadrian was "what one would nowadays term gay", explained Parkinson.
Looking at a bronze head of the Emperor Hadrian with Russell Beale in the audio trail, Mr Parkinson recalled how Hadrian was said to have "wept like a woman" when Antinous drowned in the Nile.
"He commemorated Antinous in statues, religious cults and coins across the Empire. It is said to be the most passionate outpouring of grief for lost love that we know of before Queen Victoria and Prince Albert."
"People often think that gay and lesbian history is a minority history, but of course it is part of humanity's history. Sexual diversity is something that affects us all."
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:45 pm
by Lord Jim
Gee, looks like a great exhibit for Dave to visit on his way back from Austria....

Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2013 11:58 pm
by Scooter
Not something that a closet case like him would dare expose himself to.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:00 am
by dales
Lord Jim wrote:Gee, looks like a great exhibit for Dave to visit on his way back from Austria....

LOL!

Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:10 am
by Crackpot
Scooter wrote:Not something that a closet case like him would dare expose himself to.
I wouldn't think you would like to think of him being "on your team".
I know I often wish he wasn't on mine.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:14 am
by Crackpot
But he was able to consolidate his support there making us homecoming inevitable.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:19 am
by Scooter
I don't consider closet cases with the issues he obviously has to be "on my team". Any more than I considered Larry "Wide Stance" Craig or Ted Haggard to be "on my team" when they were compensating for their self-loathing for engaging in anonymous sex by spewing their venom about those of us who had managed to get over hating ourselves for simply being who we are.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:50 am
by Joe Guy
Scooter wrote:Not something that a closet case like him would dare expose himself to.
Do you seriously believe that Dave is a closet homosexual or was that an attempt at humor?
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 12:53 am
by Scooter
He behaves exactly as so many that have been outed before him. It's not as if the type is unknown to me.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 1:17 am
by Joe Guy
Scooter wrote:He behaves exactly as so many that have been outed before him. It's not as if the type is unknown to me.
What are the traits to watch for when attempting to identify a closet gay person?
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:04 am
by dales
Going out on a limb here:
Persons that "hate gays" are ususally trying to repress their own self-loathing and feelings of attractiveness towards the same sex.
I dunno, tho.
I've never hated anyone, it serves no purpose.
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 2:16 am
by Scooter
dales wrote:Persons that "hate gays" are ususally trying to repress their own self-loathing and feelings of attractiveness towards the same sex.
It's certainly a sign. When it's taken to the level of constantly obsessing over what gay men* do with their genitalia, it's pretty much a certainty.
ETA - oh yeah, and the constant need to put down women as a means of bolstering one's own sense of masculinity, another dead giveaway
*note, they never give much thought to lesbians, which would be more a straight man's obsession
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:27 pm
by rubato
How interesting. One of the 'somethings new you learn every day' fer sure. I had thought that homosexuals were first invented (or is it discovered?) in SF in the 1970s. NOW they tell us they were around before that! Well who knew?
Wild.
Do you like snails or oysters?
yrs,
rubato
Re: A Little Gay History
Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 12:16 am
by Joe Guy
Scooter wrote:ETA - oh yeah, and the constant need to put down women as a means of bolstering one's own sense of masculinity, another dead giveaway
I had what I thought was a good friend (note:
had) like that back in my early 20's. He always would go out with the rest of us to find women. Once in a while he would meet one who he would date for a period of time. Sure enough, after a short time he would start putting her down in front of us. I heard much later that he had beaten more than one woman in his life. After I found that out he was no longer my friend. I asked him why he did it and he said 'they deserved it'. He was a lost cause.
I always suspected he was gay but not so happy.