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My poor darling hubby is just home from hospital after having a wrist reconstruction yesterday. Don't get me wrong hes not whinging or complaining but he is in pain. I am in no doubt about that.

However i am quite sure if a female had the same op 24 hours later they would be up and at em.

Not saying Seans a softie hes not and hes not one to complain. (only when i told him to piss off he wasn't having a bell to ring when he got home to save yelling for me) I don't think it helps him either that he has a severe needle phobia when it comes to pain relief. He would rather wait for oral pain relief to kick in than have a jab and 5 mins later it would have kicked in....I do not and ma never gonna get that

I just think men get very self indulgent when they are under the weather more so than womwn...in my experience anyway!

Wrist operation? It's not the pain he's complaining about...







...it's the loss of his sex life....

LOL

Yeah, I'm sure that's put a crimp in his style....

(only when i told him to piss off he wasn't having a bell to ring when he got home to save yelling for me)

Ahh yes, that wonderful bell....mu daughter's a big fan of that...

Last spring she was home with the flu for a week, ringin' that friggin' bell every ten minutes, while I'm two floors away trying to get some work done..up and down the stairs, up and down the stairs...it finally dawned on me to just call her from my office on the house phone; (she has an extension in her bedroom) to find out if it was really worth the trip.....

One time I went up there to discover that her problem was that the TV remote was down at the foot of the bed, and that she was too weak to crawl down and get it...

That was it for me. We had picked up her home work assignments from the school, so I said, "You know what? I'm gonna solve your remote problem. We're going to turn off the TV. If you've got the strength to keep ringing that damn bell, you've got the strength to get some homework done."

Last summer she cut her foot a piece of glass, running around bare footin' in the street in front of the house, (something she has been told repeatedly not to do.) We had to take her to emergency; she had a tetanus shot and a few stitches...

You'd have thought she had broken both legs....

First she wanted crutches....I said, "Why stop there? Why don't we get you an electric wheelchair?"....

My sarcasm was apparently lost on her. Her eyes got wide, and she asked, "Could we?"

I finally agreed to get her one crutch....(She was hopping around a bit, though there was really no reason she couldn't have walked on it, so long as she took a little care.)

She really gave that bell a work out for the next couple of days....

I finally got pissed off and said, "Look you really should be getting punished, not pampered. You brought this on yourself. You disobeyed and ran around bare foot on the street when you've been told repeatedly not to. Something like this happening is the exact reason we told you not to do it. It doesn't seem to me that if I'm waiting on you hand and foot that you're really being taught much of a lesson. This is fun for you. From now on you'll just have to hobble around and do for yourself."

Of course Tati was 10 then, and has just turned 11....

I don't know what Sean's excuse is for being such a big baby....

I don't think it's necessarily men vs omen, I've seen it both ways. Personally, whenever I'm ill or hurt I go out of my way to "prove" I'm fine, overdoing any physical activity and eschewing any pain medication at all; my wofe's pretty much the same way. I know people of bothe genders who love to be pampered and fussed over, but I'm not one. Not necessarily a good thing (I drove myself to work the day after I broke my shoulder last year), but it's just the way I am.

My wife and youngest daughter, 46 and 20 years old respectively, are the worlds worst patients. The nurses and doctors, who have had the misfortune at the local hospital to have had them in their charge, cringe when they see them coming. Both of them are absolutely horrible when they "don't feel well". Whining constantly, being completely uncooperative, rude, nasty and just plain royal pains in the ass.

My wife just walked past and read this post as I am writing. She couldn't find fault with anything.

I'm saying nothing....



I like my testicles attached thanks...

In my experience, you men can all be as tough as nails for so many things, but get a cold and you're wimpier than a little girl. It is actually amusing.

Gob wrote:I'm saying nothing....



I like my testicles attached thanks...

Wuss!

This is true, men don't have to be ill for 9 months while carrying around another human being, who's going to split their pelvis bone and change their body permanently.

loCAtek wrote:This is true, men don't have to be ill for 9 months while carrying around another human being, who's going to split their pelvis bone and change their body permanently.

Not to mention 30+ years of monthly bleeding and cramps, hormonal changes, bloating, puffiness, headaches, etc. They could never handle it.

Gotta love the stereotyping here. Next, why don't black people ski or ice skate? Or, why do Asian people drive so badly? Or, why are jews so cheap?

Big RR wrote:Gotta love the stereotyping here. Next, why don't black people ski or ice skate? Or, why do Asian people drive so badly? Or, why are jews so cheap?

That's funny... I was just wondering about those very issues.

btw - < Is this guy Italian?

Sexual stereotyping is bad only when men do it. Didn't you get the memo?

Carp

I entered a long drawn out post, I come back and it's gone.

This is getting very disconcerting and repetitive...

Andrew D wrote:Sexual stereotyping is bad only when men do it. Didn't you get the memo?

Hey, men had tens of thousands of years to get away with it.

Besides, it's not a stereotype: pregnancy and the menstrual cycle are indeed painful. I'm told the birth experience is worse than having kidney stones.


I know my pain threshold is pretty high because the third most painful thing I ever experienced, was in a group that was going through the same thing:
It was part of security training that my Seabee unit had to get 'Pepper Sprayed'. This is the new OC spray that is stronger than Mace in potency.

Words can not express the intensity. The closet approximation is to say that whatever is hit by the spray feels like it's on fire, this can include your eyes, mucus membranes and if you inhale it or swallow it: your lungs and esophagus. (Note: if you are ever about to be pepper sprayed; hold your breathe and close your eyes- to spare yourself that bit of agony) I can say the comparison to fire is accurate, because as a welder I've been on fire, however the spray was worse because it covered a greater surface area than any point of real burning I've ever received. The interesting thing is: when I've been severely burned to the point of scarring, I don't feel it past the second degree stage, since at three degrees nerve damage occurs and the pain stops. With the spray, the pain doesn't stop completely for hours, this is because the nerves nor anything else, aren't actually damaged so, you get a full, healthy dose of raw acute pain for a long time.

Everybody reacts to it differently; I handled it OK- I could continue to talk, function and follow orders, although I was hit in the face, eyes and the cloud enveloped my neck and exposed right arm: all of that was on fire.
Other guys ranged in response; some became disoriented and couldn't follow direction; one panicked and needed medical attention; a lot of guys cried.

To this day, I still have a bad habit of letting myself get burned while welding and not stopping to treat it. I don't think my BF likes seeing the marks. Dudes, unlike chicks, don't dig scars.

loCAtek wrote:Dudes, unlike chicks, don't dig scars.

That's a stereotypical thing to say.

Probably true, too.

loCAtek wrote:Dudes, unlike chicks, don't dig scars.

I'me sure it depends on the scar for both sexes.

Big RR wrote:Gotta love the stereotyping here. Next, why don't black people ski or ice skate? Or, why do Asian people drive so badly? Or, why are jews so cheap?

(1) I specifically said "in my experience" and limited my comments to that particular experience. One which I seem to have to manage every winter . . .

(2) Tell me please, when was the last time you had your period?

When's the last time you've had "morning wood"?

Lo--no doubt there are many women like you who have an apparently high tolerance for pain and eschew pampering when in pain or ill, and many men as will. I'd bet the opposite is also true, we are all individuals wired in our own individual ways. The stereotype of the he-man being a baby when in slight discomfort is something that has formed the basis of sitcoms and movies, not to mention plays, for years; as is the dumb woman. Funny? Moderately so, but hardly the stuff of serious discourse. Which is all I was pointing out.

As for your scars, I think it would depend where they are. Care to post some photos?

Guin--

I specifically said "in my experience" and limited my comments to that particular experience. One which I seem to have to manage every winter . . .

and if I said, "in my experience jews are cheap", somehow that would be OK? Indeed, that is what stereotyping is, generalizing a trait to all individuals in a group based on one's own experience, or the experiences realted to them by others. And note, you went further than just the men you personally knew when you said

you men can all be as tough as nails for so many things, but get a cold and you're wimpier than a little girl

; if it's only the men you knew, why are you addressing all men.

Tell me please, when was the last time you had your period?

Never (so far as i know), nor has any man had one "in your experience", have they? So how do you conclude

They could never handle it.

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Listen, I know this was not meant to be provocative and was said in a joking way, but I do find it strange that the only people who can be routinely stereotyped and criticized are men (specially non minority men) and fat people.