let them eat lead

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RayThom
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o_n_w. ONE DAY AT A TIME

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oldr_n_wsr wrote:... I have 16 months.
Well, that's an excellent place to be, especially if it's a "do over."

For me, I knew I was horribly screwed up since childhood so it was imperative that I find out what made me tick. Once sober, I enrolled back in college and loaded up on as many psychology and sociology courses as I could -- core and elective. Once I understood who, what, and why I was, the entire universe opened up and I no longer found myself struggling and hiding. Nothing since has ever beaten that moment of clarity. (Maybe my daughter's birth, but that's another wonderful story for some other time.)

One of my professors, he, too, an alcoholic, wanted me to get involved with counseling at AA. As rewarding as that sounded we could never agree on how I was to present that "higher power" concept to those struggling to regain their lives through the program. I later found out that there are, in fact, chapters of AA geared for atheists but by then I had pretty much disavowed AA and many of the twelve tenets. Bill Wilson would have liked my ways but not my means.

o_n_w, if you need the group therapy that AA offers then stay with it. Remember, sobriety is not only a great idea, but it must become your lifestyle -- you life. That's why so many falter and fumble with their sobriety. It impinges upon every aspect of living and, in the end, is deemed not to be worth the effort. Sobriety ain't for sissies. Simply put, you're either in or out, forever, NO EXCEPTIONS. You're in my thoughts. Peace.
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dales wrote:
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Lemme see, wes has only been posting a little less than 18 months but yet has managed to post some odd 4600 missives.

Which begs two questions:

1. Are there any threads in which wes has not contributed?

2. Does wes have a life outside this bbs?
Much of that number is due to his annoying habit of posting 3x in a row - we should probably reduce his post count accordingly. He was just trying to boost his BBS cred. 8-)
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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some odd 4600 missives.
Oh man, that's just too easy... 8-)

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Lord Jim wrote:Would you then agree that your group could just as easily be called "a heavily armed group of middle-aged boy scouts?"

Or as you put it; a "knitting circle"....

(Albeit a packin' heat knitting circle... 8-))
LJ, that reminds me of the Jan & Dean song — "The Anaheim, Azusa, and Cucamonga Sewing Circle, Book Review, and Timing Association" — from 'way back in the surf/hot-rod rock days of the 1960s.
Or the pioneer women's mountain biking group known as the WOMBATS — the WOmen's Mountain Biking And Tea Society.
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o_n_w, if you need the group therapy that AA offers then stay with it. Remember, sobriety is not only a great idea, but it must become your lifestyle -- you life. That's why so many falter and fumble with their sobriety. It impinges upon every aspect of living and, in the end, is deemed not to be worth the effort. Sobriety ain't for sissies. Simply put, you're either in or out, forever, NO EXCEPTIONS. You're in my thoughts. Peace.
It is my life and lifestyle. Meetings pretty much every night unless something big comes up like the daughters new house that needed fixing. But even then I made three a week. As someone said, "I only need one meeting a week, I just don't know which one so I go to all of them".

Glad you found a way for you to stay sober Ray. AA is not the end all but for me it is. If you feel the desire, I have a thread on my alcoholism in "All our own works" subforum.

Peace and love back at you Ray. :ok

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Cartalk,seems to be getting lame these days,but there are rumors of a new format,but still they are dodging the one that would save them(IMO). :|

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