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[thestoat]

Ah, well, that's all right then. The "personal god" where you can interpret the bible as you see fit and see stories as allegorical. I guess most atheists would fit that bill

[oldr_n_wsr]

seeking your own 'Personal God'. Approach faith as it is best perceived by you.

Isn't the the 7th step?

[dales]

I believe it's Step Three...

THE TWELVE STEPS OF ALCOHOLICS ANONYMOUS
1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol—that our lives had become
unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to
sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we
understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature
of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make
amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do
so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly
admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with
God, as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us
and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these Steps, we tried to
carry this

[oldr_n_wsr]

Well I was drunk when I read them.

[oldr_n_wsr]

edited

DPM

[Gob]

Well I was drunk when I read them.

ROTFLMCO!!

[loCAtek]

Ah, well, that's all right then. The "personal god" where you can interpret the bible as you see fit and see stories as allegorical. I guess most atheists would fit that bill

Of course, they/we do. We all seek faith according to our needs. What I don't understand are atheists who claim to know that others don't need faith, since they don't. Isn't that projecting your values/beliefs on others?

[loCAtek]

Well I was drunk when I read them.

...which reminds me; I've been accused of not following the 12 steps.

Is than an endorsement of spirituality's importantance and effectiveness?

[rubato]

Saying that some people "need" faith in a superstitious world view which requires an act of overt self-deception is a great deal more cynical than saying that they don't.

yrs,
rubato

[dales]

Well I was drunk when I read them.

I'm telling your sponsor!

[loCAtek]

Saying that some people "need" faith in a superstitious world view which requires an act of overt self-deception is a great deal more cynical than saying that they don't.

yrs,
rubato

Saying the everyone's needs are exactly the same is false.