...he's a very naughty boy...

[loCAtek]

Both the Koran the Bible describe Jesus as divine and able to perform miracles. This is either because historically Mohammed would had heard of Jesus from the local people; or he heard it from the angel Gabriel who spoke to Mohammed many times. The Koran is said to be the gathered messages from Gabriel through Mohammed.

Jesus in Islam


Jesus is described by various means in the Qur'an. The most common reference to Jesus occurs in the form of "Ibn Maryam" (son of Mary), sometimes preceded with another title. Jesus is also recognised as a prophet (nabī) and messenger (rasūl) of Allah. The terms wadjih ("worthy of esteem in this world and the next"), mubārak ("blessed", or "a source of benefit for others"), `abd-Allāh (servant of Allah) are all used in the Qur'an in reference to Jesus.[4]

Another title frequently mentioned is al-Masīḥ, which translates to "the Messiah". This does not correspond to the Christian concept of Messiah, as Islam regards all prophets, including Jesus, to be mortal and without any share in divinity.

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Islam views Jesus as a human like all other prophets, who preached that salvation came through submission to Allah's will and worshiping Allah alone. Thus, Jesus is considered in Islam to have been a Muslim by the definition of the term (i.e., one who submits to Allah's will), as were all other prophets in Islam.[30]

The biggest difference, of course is Muslims don't believe in the ascension of Chirst; however they do believe he will rule after Judgement Day;

Qur'an 3:81–85, 33:7–8

(They have incurred divine displeasure): In that they broke their covenant; that they rejected the signs of Allah; that they slew the Messengers in defiance of right; that they said, "Our hearts are the wrappings (which preserve Allah's Word; We need no more)";- Nay, Allah hath set the seal on their hearts for their blasphemy, and little is it they believe;-
That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah";- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
And there is none of the People of the Book but must believe in him before his death; and on the Day of Judgment he will be a witness against them;-
—Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa) ayat 155-159[38]

The Trinity, which includes Jesus as God's son, separate from him; was rejected by Mohammed because it countered the 'oneness' of Allah, as described by the angel Gabriel. However, the billboard doesn't address any of that, and is accurate up the point of Jesus being one of the prophets of Islam.

[Sean]

The Trinity, which includes Jesus as God's son, separate from him;

Actually the whole point of the Trinity is the belief that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are one, not separate at all.

[loCAtek]

Not at all? Or maybe just a little bit;

In the hypostatic union, Jesus' two natures are totally separate (like the persons of the Trinity are totally separate), but they are united in one person (like the persons of the Trinity are united in one essence). Because they are totally separate, each nature retains its own attributes. That means that in his human nature, Jesus' knowledge is limited to what he has learned as a man, while in his divine nature he is totally omniscient, knowing everything.


Trinity and Jesus' Omniscience

Christians had accepted the Trinity for hundreds of years, before Mohammed decided they were wrong.

[Sean]

The Trinitarian belief is that while God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit exist as separate beings, when they are referred to in the context of the Trinity (as you did) they are inseperable; one God or Godhead.

[Sean]

...as opposed to the other (and more real) holy trinity of Best, Law and Charlton.

[loCAtek]

So, that's more than not at all, gotcha.

[Sean]

Deliberately obtuse... not entertaining to me at all...

[loCAtek]

Cool, buh-bye

[oldr_n_wsr]

...as opposed to the other (and more real) holy trinity of Best, Law and Charlton

I always thought that was
The Good

The Bad

and
The Ugly

[Sean]

Not if you come from Manchester oldr...

They were also the original Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman who walked into a bar.

[Lord Jim]

They were also the original Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman who walked into a bar

Where was the Welshman?

Oh I know....

He didn't walk in with them because he'd already been there since opening time....

[Sean]

Actually he never left at closing time.

[thestoat]

He didn't walk in with them because he'd already been there since opening time....

Actually he never left at closing time.

[oldr_n_wsr]

He didn't walk in with them because he'd already been there since opening time....

Actually he never left at closing time.

Sounds like me a few months ago.

[Gob]

PROCLAIMING Jesus to be ''a prophet of Islam'' on billboards is a statement of belief and does not discriminate against or vilify Christians, the Advertising Standards Bureau has found.

The billboard, one of several in an awareness campaign by Islamic group MyPeace, was the subject of a series of complaints to the bureau on the grounds that the statement was insulting to those who believed Jesus to be the son of God.



Other complaints included the charge that Jesus ''must not be associated with such [an] aggressive religion'' and another claiming the advertisement was upsetting to children.
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''What [my child] knows of Islam she has learnt from watching mainstream news broadcasts and to have her saviour identified as being part of this malicious cult was very traumatic!'' one complaint stated.

But the bureau found that while some members of the community would be offended by the statement, which would be inconsistent with Christian beliefs, ''such a statement does not, of itself, discriminate against or vilify people who hold different beliefs'' and was not a breach of the Advertiser Code of Ethics.

''The board acknowledged that the Islam faith does consider that Jesus is a prophet of Mohammed,'' it read.

It found the billboards did not suggest violence or contain frightening material ''and that it is not unreasonable for children to be exposed to a variety of information in their daily lives, some of which may conflict with the views with which they are raised''.

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