For some time I have argued that God's inability to get a plain message of what is expected of us across, proves the non-existence of god.
Here's Billy on the same theme.
He says it so much better than I do...
He says it so much better than I do...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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It only proves that you have made the choice not to believe, Gob.For some time I have argued that God's inability to get a plain message of what is expected of us across, proves the non-existence of god.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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See! Proof that God exists - and has a sophomoric sense of humor.
No wonder, he's male.
No wonder, he's male.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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. . . or maybe that God formerly existed as male, but decided to discard a piece of Her anatomy that did not conform to Her self-image . . . .bigskygal wrote:See! Proof that God exists - and has a sophomoric sense of humor.
No wonder, he's male.
or . . . Quick! Has anyone seen Lorena Bobbitt lately?!
Be excellent to each other--and, party on, dudes!
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Anyone who can look around and not see any proof of the existence of God is simply being obstinate...can't or won't deal with the ramifications of His (Her) existence.
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It's a fantastically beautiful world with much great goodness in it.
It's also a disgustingly ugly world with much great horror in it.
I can readily accept that ALL of that is driven by simple biology.
It is, in fact, of far greater comfort to me to accept that the universe is random, that good/beauty and horror/ugliness are random - than to accept that a divine Creator allows things to be as they are.
I no longer need fairy tales to cope in the world as it is. YMMV.
It's also a disgustingly ugly world with much great horror in it.
I can readily accept that ALL of that is driven by simple biology.
It is, in fact, of far greater comfort to me to accept that the universe is random, that good/beauty and horror/ugliness are random - than to accept that a divine Creator allows things to be as they are.
I no longer need fairy tales to cope in the world as it is. YMMV.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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You could just as easily say, "Anyone who can look around and feel the need to see a creator's hand in everything is simply blinkered...can't or won't deal with the ramifications of the fact that God may not actually exist".dgs49 wrote:Anyone who can look around and not see any proof of the existence of God is simply being obstinate...can't or won't deal with the ramifications of His (Her) existence.
Makes just as much sense...
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Yeah, but that phallic iceberg proves to me that God does have a sense of humor.
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Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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And that's where we differ Dales. All it proves to me is the existence of pareidolia... 
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Could be. 
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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Nonsense! If god was male that penis-berg would have been much grander and more important-looking.bigskygal wrote:See! Proof that God exists - and has a sophomoric sense of humor.
No wonder, he's male.
yrs,
rubato
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Rubbishdgs49 wrote:Anyone who can look around and not see any proof of the existence of God is simply being obstinate...can't or won't deal with the ramifications of His (Her) existence.
If a man speaks in the forest and there are no women around to hear is he still wrong?
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So, phallicism doesn't prove or disprove God?
So, why would pedophilia prove or disprove God?
So, why would pedophilia prove or disprove God?
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dgs49 wrote:Anyone who can look around and not see any proof of the existence of God is simply being obstinate...can't or won't deal with the ramifications of His (Her) existence.
Those who can look around and say that all physical effects have physical causes created empirical science. Empirical science has reduced suffering more in 50 years than religion did in the last 2,000.
yrs,
rubato
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Empirical science has produced severe overpopulation of humans, which is the cause of dire planetary suffering. ...not everything is about humans.
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Right. Overpopulation has nothing to do with religious dictates against the use of birth control. 
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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You both have valid points...
Prohibitions against contraceptives don't help, but it's undeniable that without scientific advances; particularly in areas like medicine, pre and post natal are, and agri-science, you wouldn't have the population figures we see today....
Economics also plays a role...population growth is taking place at the fastest pace where having large numbers of children provides (at least a short term) economic benefit; more laborers to raise income for the families, daughters that can bring in dowerys, etc.
Prohibitions against contraceptives don't help, but it's undeniable that without scientific advances; particularly in areas like medicine, pre and post natal are, and agri-science, you wouldn't have the population figures we see today....
Economics also plays a role...population growth is taking place at the fastest pace where having large numbers of children provides (at least a short term) economic benefit; more laborers to raise income for the families, daughters that can bring in dowerys, etc.
