Right On Katy

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American singer Katy Perry has criticized Lady Gaga’s new music video for her latest single Alejandro, accusing her of using cheap tactics and blasphemy to get attention.

Alejandro has sparked controversy due to its shocking graphics of nun rape, bondage, dirty dancing and sex scenes.

Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke,” Perry tweeted.

The eight-minute video has Lady Gaga wearing a red and white latex nun outfit. She is mobbed by a group of male soldiers who rip off her clothes and it looks like they are raping her, reports News.com.au.

In another outrageous scene, Gaga is wearing her underwear riding a soldier she has tied to a bedpost.
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I disagree with one point in the article....

Scenes of nuns being raped have been done so often, they no longer qualify as "shocking"....

As I've said before, if the Madonnas and Lady Gagas of the world really want to be "edgy", "shocking" "controversial" and show some real balls, let's see them produce rock videos mocking Islam....
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Katy Perry should know all about cheap comedians telling fart jokes. She is engaged to that waste of humour Russell Brand.
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Thank you Hen!

Nice to know that I'm not the only one who finds him at best irritating and at worst skin-crawlingly irritating.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?

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Yep, nailed that one Jim..

I agree that Russel Brand is a talentless twat, as funny as a hernia
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Is that what this song is about? I've only heard it on the radio and could never make sense of the lyrics.


You want a good movie about a nun rape? Netflix-'The Bad Lieutenant' (the original 1992) shock with a message!

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Or Two Mules for Sister Sarah (but there is a twist i won't give away).

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Lo--Or Two Mules for Sister Sarah (but there is a twist i won't give away).

jim--while something mocking islam could be funny (and they have every right to do it), most satirists/provocateurs mock their own culture as a statement of rebellion against it. While I am no fan of madonna or gaga, I'd bet that's what they're doing as well.

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“Using blasphemy as entertainment is as cheap as a comedian telling a fart joke,” Perry tweeted.
Um, blasphemy and fart jokes have been entertainment pretty much forever, and frequently considered an integral element of Western culture. See, e.g., Chaucer, G, The Canterbury Tales, applying both.

I don't know anything about her husband, but Katy Perry obviously knows nothing about comedy. The ostensible subject matter of a joke is not what makes it funny; it's all about context and presentation.

As for Lady Gaga, Madonna and any other pop artist, there's really only one relevant question: Does it have a good dance beat and a monster hook?
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I've been forced to endure a lot of Lady Gaga music, since I've started my new job. I can listen to either Latin musica or pop music because that's all my cheap radio gets. (I wouldn't bring a nice stereo into work, because they get beaten by the soot, grind dust and welding radiation.)
...and now that Lady Gaga is having a concert here in the Bay Area soon; promoters want people to buy tickets. There's only one song she really uses her voice well in: Bad Romance. The rest are all tricks of good editing.

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jejune...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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Madonna and Gaga could never be "edgy", "shocking" "controversial" and show some real balls, by producing rock videos mocking Islam in the UK, they would be banned...
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Well, heard the song in question again tonight; listened closely to the lyrics, and I'd have never envisioned this sort of performance to it.

The story seems to be about a woman who no longer is interested in 'Alejandro' and would rather date 'Fernando'. The song itself gets no stronger than saying, "Don't touch me there Alejandro, I'd rather be with Fernando." ...and rather blandly at that.

Guess it needed visual punch to make any media impact.

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I went and looked at the video. Loca is right, the song is lame (and it drags on way way too long). The whole production seems to be largely a spoof* of Madonna's stuff from like 20 years ago, and not even nearly as explicit in its religious imagery. I really don't see what anyone is so worked up about.

*I seriously wondered whether it was a spoof or an homage, but it's so over-the-top silly and nonsensical -- including a machine-gun brassiere -- that it's gotta be a spoof.
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Well if i'm hearing the song properly I think the choice of costumes is more "personality archetype" of the characters in the song than a religious statement. That being said it still doesn't make it good.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Wanna-wanna-be Gaga, Aguilara?

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There was a break in the media play ( I think Lady Gaga's concert came and went) and then I heard 'Alejandro' on air again tonight. The opening bars I recognized, but then I had a Déjà-vu, that I'd heard this synthesized riff before...

Speaking of '80's rip-offs, the chords sound like they're from Ace Of Base “Don't Turn Around”

Ace of Base has a better melody over it, but there is some similarity;


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