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Andrew must have gotten access to those secret Vatican archives.
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Obama does a backflip...
Speaking at the White House, President Obama said: "No woman's health should depend on who she is or where she works".
The adjustment to the policy would mean Americans would not have to choose between "religious liberty and basic fairness", he said.
Under the new plan put forward by the White House health insurance companies, rather than the employer, will be required to offer contraception directly to employees of religious-linked institutions if requested.
The institutions - such as universities or hospitals - would not be required to subsidise the cost of offering birth control to their employees, nor would they be asked to refer them to organisations that provide it.
Women could obtain contraceptives directly from their insurance provider, free of charge, the White House said.
The adjustment to the policy "accommodates religious liberty while protecting the health of women", the White House added.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16985757
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The reality is that the employer will be paying for the insurance anyway, regardless of how the employee is accessing it, but if Catholic institutions are prepared to accept this fig leaf then everyone comes away happy.
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Works for me. As it should be anyway - birth control is a basic health service and should be encouraged by the insurers. Would they rather pay for birth control or prenatal care and delivery??
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Why would any employer want to make it more likely for its employees to get pregnant?
I guess it's more important to control what people do in their bedroom, even if it eventually makes them miss work.
I guess it's more important to control what people do in their bedroom, even if it eventually makes them miss work.
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How is this a 'backflip'? It isn't even a change. It just underlines what was already true that the HI provider would be paying for the pills (depo-provera, IUDs &c)
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Keeps the supply of altar boys coming...Joe Guy wrote:Why would any employer want to make it more likely for its employees to get pregnant?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Just out of interest, how much would the pill cost in the USA?
In the UK it is free, in Aus if you have a medicare card the pill will cost about $30 for a 4 month supply and an implanon implant will cost around $300.
In the UK it is free, in Aus if you have a medicare card the pill will cost about $30 for a 4 month supply and an implanon implant will cost around $300.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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If you pay cash its about $50 / month for birth control pills. Not insignificant for a working single mother.Gob wrote:Just out of interest, how much would the pill cost in the USA?
In the UK it is free, in Aus if you have a medicare card the pill will cost about $30 for a 4 month supply and an implanon implant will cost around $300.
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The standard 28/month packs are about 25-30 per month without insurance. The 4/month or other options like the ring are 50-60/month without insurance.
Depending on the plan, and I have what is considered top tier health plan, it is still about half that with insurance, although you can do mail order and get a 3 month supply for 2 months co-pay (it used to be 3 months for 1 month co-pay). Or go to Planned Parenthood or here, the MA sponsored health care clinics, and perhaps get it free.
No idea what the implant costs, or an IUD, without insurance.
Depending on the plan, and I have what is considered top tier health plan, it is still about half that with insurance, although you can do mail order and get a 3 month supply for 2 months co-pay (it used to be 3 months for 1 month co-pay). Or go to Planned Parenthood or here, the MA sponsored health care clinics, and perhaps get it free.
No idea what the implant costs, or an IUD, without insurance.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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Thanks for that Guin. So not really a huge cost, would the poor get any help with paying for contraception, are there any free contraception services?
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Planned Parenthood hands out free condoms to men & women.Gob wrote:Thanks for that Guin. So not really a huge cost, would the poor get any help with paying for contraception, are there any free contraception services?
And of course men can use these for discounts...
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Its a significant cost if you're scrambling just to make rent and feed your family.
And yes, there is some free care available -- through private concerns like Planned Parenthood, or through the state -- but its becoming scarcer, and demand higher.
And yes, there is some free care available -- through private concerns like Planned Parenthood, or through the state -- but its becoming scarcer, and demand higher.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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Oh and you need an annual doc visit to get it - prescription required -- which is another layer of time and cost.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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Guinevere wrote:Its a significant cost if you're scrambling just to make rent and feed your family.
Good point. Those would be free in Aus for people in those circumstances.Guinevere wrote:Oh and you need an annual doc visit to get it - prescription required -- which is another layer of time and cost.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Republicans appear to be saying that a Muslim employer should be able to bar his female employees from seeing a male doctor and a Christian Scientist employer should be able to refuse to provide any medical insurance at all on the grounds that you should never see a doctor.
How stupid is this party again?
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How stupid is this party again?
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