The Myth of the Mithra's...

[loCAtek]

Cool, Sean. I've no prob with Scooter working out his issues with his family, by projecting on me; I hope it helps him out.

[Scooter]

I'm not the one married to a bottle, that's strictly your schtick.

[Andrew D]

Why do you believe that Gob and Sean are trying to control you, loCAtek?

I see no indication that they are attempting to force you not to post. I see no indication that they are attempting to force you to post differently.

On the contrary, I get the impression that they find your postings highly entertaining.

[loCAtek]

I'm not the one married to a bottle, that's strictly your schtick.

Nope but I hope you find it cathartic to be able to say all the things, you wanted to say to your family.

[loCAtek]

Why do you believe that Gob and Sean are trying to control you, loCAtek?

I see no indication that they are attempting to force you not to post. I see no indication that they are attempting to force you to post differently.

On the contrary, I get the impression that they find your postings highly entertaining.

You would have to ask them, I hope they do. I believe I challenge their viewpoints. Whether I challenge them well or not; is not the issue; they just don't seem to want it done at all. If you are saying they are enjoying the challenge, then cool, I do too.

[Sean]

Oh I do!

Now Andrew asked you a reasonable question. Are you too rude to answer him?

[quaddriver]

I'm not the one married to a bottle, that's strictly your schtick.

Nice.

[Scooter]

I hope you find it cathartic to be able to say all the things, you wanted to say to your family.

I've never had any problem stating what needed to be said within my family, you're obviously projecting the inability of your family to confront you about your dependence on the bottle.

[Gob]

I love it! Andrew asks her why she "believe that Gob and Sean are trying to control you"?

Her reply; "you'll have to ask them that"!

So in order to find out why SHE thinks WE are trying to control HER, you should ask US!

[The Hen]

Well, I think that she thinks that you are trying to control her because she has abdicated her own controls and has an innate need to blame others for her actions as well as to blame others for her flawed thoughts.







Now I have posted that, this is probably my fault now.

[loCAtek]

Well, they're definitely trying to get me to post differently about my OP, by hijacking my thread.

This has what to do with Mithras, I dunno.

[Sean]

Dear Gob and Sean, you're being control freaks.

Loca

You brought it up you dumb fuck!
Blackouts are no excuse for not being able to follow your own thread...

[Lord Jim]

Look, I don't know a whole lot about this, but I can certainly attest to thew fact that Mithra is NO myth!

I've seen the dude on film and believe me, you don't want to piss him off:

[loCAtek]

I hope you find it cathartic to be able to say all the things, you wanted to say to your family.

I've never had any problem stating what needed to be said within my family, you're obviously projecting the inability of your family to confront you about your dependence on the bottle.

I haven't seen them in years, long before I became an alcoholic.
...and I've mentioned I didn't get drunk publicly. When I tell my friends, I'm an alcoholic, they never believe me at first, because they've never seen me overdo it.

[loCAtek]

Oh I do!

Now Andrew asked you a reasonable question. Are you too rude to answer him?

Andrew, must have found my answer satisfactory.

[Scooter]

I haven't seen them in years

That certainly explains a lot about how you are choosing to behave here.

I've mentioned I didn't get drunk publicly

So you save it for when you're on the internet. I guess we should all feel so special to be witnessing that.

[loCAtek]

anywayZ, not the point


FYI The Festival of Yalda is still celebrated in Persia, or as it's known today- Iran.

Kurdish man engaged in the worship of Mithras in a Pir’s (mystical leader/master) sanctuary which acts as a Mithraic temple (Courtesy Kasraian & Arshi, 1993, Plate 80). Note how he stands below an opening allowing for the “shining of the light”, almost exactly as seen with the statue in Ostia, Italy. These particular Kurds are said to pay homage to Mithras three times a day.

Source

IRANIAN TRADITIONS & BELIEFS

.FESTIVAL OF ZAYESHMEHR

(YALDA)

The Birth of God Mithra & Significance of Winter Solstice in Iranian Culture & Heritage



By Massoume Price

Edited by CAIS (2010)


Happy ZayeshMehr Yalda Birth of God Mithras1.PNG (1498019 bytes)

Zayeshmehr also known as Yalda and Shab-e Cheleh in Persian is celebrated on the eve of the first day of the winter (December 21-22) in the Iranian calendar, which falls on the Winter Solstice and forty days before the next major Iranian festival "Jashn-e Sadeh (fire festival)".

As the longest night of the year, the Eve of Zayeshmehr or the Birth of Mithra (Shab-e Yalda) is also a turning point, after which the days grow longer. It symbolised the triumph of Light and Goodness over the powers of Darkness.



Yalda celebration has great significance in the Iranian calendar. It is the eve of the birth of Mithra, the Sun God, who symbolised light, goodness and strength on earth. Shab-e Zayehmehr is a time of joy. The festival was considered pone of the most important celebrations in ancient Iran and continues to be celebrated to this day, for a period of more than 5000 years.

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The Iranian traditions merged into ancient Rome belief system, in a festival dedicated to the ancient god of seedtime, Saturn. The Romans exchanged gifts, partied and decorated their homes with greenery. Following the Iranian tradition, the usual order of the year was suspended. Grudges and quarrels would be forgotten and wars interrupted or postponed. Businesses, courts and schools were closed. Rich and poor became equal, masters served slaves, and children headed the family. Cross-dressing and masquerades, merriment of all kinds prevailed. A mock king, the Lord of Misrule, was crowned. Candles and lamps chased away the spirits of darkness.



Another related Roman festival celebrated at the same time was dedicated to “Sol Invictus” (the Invincible Sun) dedicated to the God Mithra. This ancient Iranian cult was spread into the Roman world by Emperor Elagabalus (r. 218 to 222 CE) and declared as the god of state.



With the spread of Christianity, Christmas celebration became the most important Christian festival. In the third century various dates, from December to April, were celebrated by Christians as Christmas. January 6th, was the most favoured day because it was thought to be Jesus's Baptismal day (in the Greek Orthodox Church this continues to be the day to celebrate Christmas). In year 350, December 25th it was adopted in Rome and gradually almost the entire Christian church agreed to that date, which coincided, with the Winter solstice and the festivals, Sol Invicta and Saturnalia. Many of the rituals and traditions of the pre-Christian festivals were incorporated into the Christmas celebration and are still observed to this date.

[Scooter]

It symbolised the triumph of Light and Goodness over the powers of Darkness.

Gee, that doesn't appear to bear any resemblance to Christian theology at all.

[loCAtek]

It symbolised the triumph of Light and Goodness over the powers of Darkness.

Gee, that doesn't appear to bear any resemblance to Christian theology at all.

The whole sentence reads.

In Ancient Iran, the start of the solar year has been marked to celebrate the victory of light over darkness and the renewal of the Sun.

From the first link.

Mithra, who was to become the Sun-God, is perhaps one of the best known Iranic gods, and was at one time widely worshipped in the Roman Empire. Mithra in Avestan is translated as “pact, contract, covenent“. As the god who controls the oirder of the cosmos, hence the change of seasons and night into day, Mithra

Mithras was also part of a polytheist religion. Christianity is a monotheist religion.

[Scooter]

So you admit it bears a resemblance to Christian theology. Thanks.