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That's an excellent point; if the numbers are really tiny, this map is kind of misleading...Also if 2nd and 3rd (and maybe 4th) are really close together it's also a little misleading...I'd love to know how far behind Christianity the runner ups are in terms of number of adherents.
According to this study, Florida clocks in at 0.877% Muslim, 0.683% Jewish.The researchers found Illinois to be the most Muslim state with around 2.8 percent of the population identifying as Muslim adherents. The researchers found Montana to be the least Muslim state with only 0.034 percent identifying as Muslim adherents.
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The researchers found New York to be the most Jewish state with around 4 percent of the population identifying as Jewish adherents. The researchers found Wyoming to be the least Jewish state with only about .02 percent identifying as Jewish adherents.
I'm pretty sure if you asked Mainers whether they were Christians, substantially more than one in four would say yes.The researchers found Utah to be the most Christian* state with around 78 percent of population identifying as Christian adherents. The researchers found Maine to be the least Christian state with only about 27 percent identifying as Christian adherents.
The researchers found Utah to be the most Christian* state with around 78 percent of population identifying as Christian adherents.
Frankly, y'all look alike to me.MajGenl.Meade wrote:The researchers found Utah to be the most Christian* state with around 78 percent of population identifying as Christian adherents.
I would have guessed Christianity would be second to Mormonism there
No one associated with the project appears to be making any such decision; people are self identifying and Mormons usually consider themselves to be Christians (as do roman catholics, which some protestant groups also deny is a chrisitian religion, and probably vice versa). I would think similar divisions exist in other religions (the various moslem sects, e.g.) Not sure there is any other way to take such a survey other than letting people state their religious preference themselves, since there are no religious bodies which control the broad generic names and can say who is or is not a part of the broad groups.Obviously, the consider "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints" to be a "Christian" religion.
Take the meds. If you paint "Jesus Christ" on a dog, it's still a dog and not a Christian.dgs49 wrote:Meade, my BP went up a few points when I saw that. Obviously, the consider "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints" to be a "Christian" religion.
I am always reminded of Abe Lincoln's riddle about dogs' legs.
and must rectify my grammar error: it should be runners up, not runner ups!Very cool interactive maps from the Pew website (allows you to search by state/religious affiliation):Summary of Key Findings
Major Religious Traditions in the U.S.
An extensive new survey by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life details statistics on religion in America and explores the shifts taking place in the U.S. religious landscape. Based on interviews with more than 35,000 Americans age 18 and older, the U.S. Religious Landscape Survey finds that religious affiliation in the U.S. is both very diverse and extremely fluid.
Key Findings and Statistics on Religion in America
More than one-quarter of American adults (28%) have left the faith in which they were raised in favor of another religion - or no religion at all. If change in affiliation from one type of Protestantism to another is included, 44% of adults have either switched religious affiliation, moved from being unaffiliated with any religion to being affiliated with a particular faith, or dropped any connection to a specific religious tradition altogether.
The survey finds that the number of people who say they are unaffiliated with any particular faith today (16.1%) is more than double the number who say they were not affiliated with any particular religion as children. Among Americans ages 18-29, one-in-four say they are not currently affiliated with any particular religion.
The Landscape Survey confirms that the United States is on the verge of becoming a minority Protestant country; the number of Americans who report that they are members of Protestant denominations now stands at barely 51%. Moreover, the Protestant population is characterized by significant internal diversity and fragmentation, encompassing hundreds of different denominations loosely grouped around three fairly distinct religious traditions - evangelical Protestant churches (26.3% of the overall adult population), mainline Protestant churches (18.1%) and historically black Protestant churches (6.9%).
While those Americans who are unaffiliated with any particular religion have seen the greatest growth in numbers as a result of changes in affiliation, Catholicism has experienced the greatest net losses as a result of affiliation changes. While nearly one-in-three Americans (31%) were raised in the Catholic faith, today fewer than one-in-four (24%) describe themselves as Catholic. These losses would have been even more pronounced were it not for the offsetting impact of immigration. The Landscape Survey finds that among the foreign-born adult population, Catholics outnumber Protestants by nearly a two-to-one margin (46% Catholic vs. 24% Protestant); among native-born Americans, on the other hand, the statistics show that Protestants outnumber Catholics by an even larger margin (55% Protestant vs. 21% Catholic). Immigrants are also disproportionately represented among several world religions in the U.S., including Islam, Hinduism and Buddhism.
Although there are about half as many Catholics in the U.S. as Protestants, the number of Catholics nearly rivals the number of members of evangelical Protestant churches and far exceeds the number of members of both mainline Protestant churches and historically black Protestant churches. The U.S. also includes a significant number of members of the third major branch of global Christianity - Orthodoxy - whose adherents now account for 0.6% of the U.S. adult population. American Christianity also includes sizeable numbers of Mormons (1.7% of the adult population), Jehovah's Witnesses (0.7%) and other Christian groups (0.3%).
Like the other major groups, people who are unaffiliated with any particular religion (16.1%) also exhibit remarkable internal diversity. Although one-quarter of this group consists of those who describe themselves as either atheist or agnostic (1.6% and 2.4% of the adult population overall, respectively), the majority of the unaffiliated population (12.1% of the adult population overall) is made up of people who simply describe their religion as "nothing in particular." This group, in turn, is fairly evenly divided between the "secular unaffiliated," that is, those who say that religion is not important in their lives (6.3% of the adult population), and the "religious unaffiliated," that is, those who say that religion is either somewhat important or very important in their lives (5.8% of the overall adult population).
Even smaller religions in the U.S. reflect considerable internal diversity. For instance, most Jews (1.7% of the overall adult population) identify with one of three major groups: Reform, Conservative or Orthodox Judaism. Similarly, more than half of Buddhists (0.7% of the overall adult population) belong to one of three major groups within Buddhism: Zen, Theravada or Tibetan Buddhism. Muslims (0.6% of the overall adult population) divide primarily into two major groups: Sunni and Shia.
Yep, clearly in "Whatever they want to call themselves, it doesn't bother me" territory. I will point out differences between what I and another person believe, but I don't hold the trademark on the name "Christian", so if that's what they choose to call themselves, so be it. IMHO labels are pretty pointless, and tend to blunt understanding and discussion.Even Big RR should be able to spot the ball
It's like watching Sunnis, Shiias and Sufis playing together.MajGenl.Meade wrote:The researchers found Utah to be the most Christian* state with around 78 percent of population identifying as Christian adherents.
I would have guessed Christianity would be second to Mormonism there
Yes, just like the Pope did, when he invited LDS representatives to attend an exclusively Christian prayer service when he visited the U.S.dgs49 wrote:Meade, my BP went up a few points when I saw that. Obviously, the consider "The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints" to be a "Christian" religion.
so then would you agree or disagree with those protestants (and there are many) who call Roman Catholicism polytheistic (by the prayer to and worship/adoration of saints, mary, etc.) not rooted solely in the bible, and thus nonchristian (and, please, let's not derail this thread with an argument about the legitimacy of those beliefs, keep to the question as who has the authority to decide what religion is Christian and what is not)? Pretty silly to allow a bunch of self-appointed arbiters to set the "rules" that must apply to everyone. If you don't think LDS is Christian, fine; if they do, fine. Same with the RC church and any other that purports to be Christian. You, I or anyone else can have our own opinions, but they are not binding on anyone else."Christianity" is not "whatever I think it should be," but rather a fairly well defined set of beliefs
