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Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 12:03 am
by Gob
specialist subject "the bleedin obvious."
The rise in Muslim faith schools is breeding social and racial segregation in Britain, a leading equality campaigner said today.
Matthew Taylor, chairman of the Social Integration Commission, said that the increase in faith and free schools is stifling diversity and stopping children from different races and backgrounds mixing. He was particularly critical of Muslim faith schools because they have the least diversity. It came after 2014 saw a string of schools criticised over 'Trojan horse' plots by religious extremists and failures to protect students from radical material and influences. A report in July found there was a ‘coordinated’ campaign to introduce ‘an intolerant and aggressive Islamic ethos’ into some of the city’s schools.
In total 21 schools investigated by Ofsted and several were found to be failing students and put into special measures. Mr Taylor, a former adviser to Tony Blair when he was prime minister, singled out Muslim faith schools as the least diverse in their intake and called for the Government to take action. He accused the Government of a 'certain amount of carelessness' over its schools policy, in particularly that 'we have more schools and more faith schools and more free schools'. He told the Independent: 'It's more by negligence than anything; I don't think that the Government has deliberately promoted segregation but I think sometimes it pursues policies which are anti-integration and it isn't sufficiently aware of that.
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 4:23 pm
by Big RR
I would think any faith based school would be discriminatory, as it tend to encourage believers/adherents/etc. to join together in a school that recognizes their values rather than be educated in an integrated school without the religious agenda. Mr. Taylor seems to singe out islamic schools for being particularly discriminatory in intake" (I presume admissions), but I wonder what the data really shows. Except for schools run by the national religion (the Church of England, and I am unsure about that), I find it hard to believe other faith based schools don't do the same thing.
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 5:30 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Icelandic you fool! Not Islamic!
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:06 pm
by Big RR
Oh, it's some groups from Iceland that are out to ruin British culture; how silly of me to misunderstand.
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 8:17 pm
by rubato
Racial segregation is harmful? They didn't figure that out after the US south in the 1950s? ( to the present )
Its what we don't know that we should know that is so harmful.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 9:39 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Big RR wrote:Oh, it's some groups from Iceland that are out to ruin British culture; how silly of me to misunderstand.
It's a Mastermind joke... Gob will get it
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:00 pm
by Gob
Islam isn't a race rubato.
Son of Magnus, Meade.
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:05 pm
by Big RR
Meade--my response was a (poor) joke as well, completed unrelated to mastermind, and that I guess no one got (or at least cares about).
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 10:54 pm
by rubato
Gob wrote:Islam isn't a race rubato.
Son of Magnus, Meade.
As everyone knows.
As everyone also knows the phenomenon is so much the same that the term is apt. For those trying to understand.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 11:22 pm
by wesw
if everyone knows, why would we have to try to understand what we already know?
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:18 am
by Gob
rubato wrote:
As everyone knows.
As everyone also knows the phenomenon is so much the same that the term is apt. For those trying to understand.
Not at all, most intelligent people are able to recognise Islam as a religion, rather than a race, so as to not fall into the trap you did.
But there again, you're not a intelligent person.
Children at these schools would be from many different racial backgrounds, and only a racist like you would lumber them all together.
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:38 am
by Lord Jim
OH NO!
More pig piling
All he was doing was to helpfully suggest that you try harder to understand, but once again you make him a TARGET for your bile, even though he was just trying to be helpful.
Fortunately, because he has a very centered belief in his place in this world and universe, he refuses to be ruffled by even your ugliest attacks. You can't stop; it's a compulsion. It's maddening to you that he doesn't care.
yrs,
BAG (BayAreaGuy)
Re: Can we get you on "Mastermind" dear?
Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 4:07 pm
by Big RR
Gob--in response to your comment to rubato--
Children at these schools would be from many different racial backgrounds, and only a racist like you would lumber them all together.
That apears to be pretty much what Mr. Taylor is saying in the OP when he complains of the lack of diversity:
[Taylor} said that the increase in faith and free schools is stifling diversity and stopping children from different races and backgrounds mixing. He was particularly critical of Muslim faith schools because they have the least diversity.
I don't think such is the case as islam is a fairly broad based religion that includes people of many diverse races and cultures, but it pretty much aligns with the "Trojan Horse" plots some ascribe to the islamic schools. Perhaps he was misquoted?