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But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christians

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:23 pm
by Scooter
The Christian Taliban/Al-Qaeda/ISIS strikes again:
Christian Activist Files Ballot Measure To Execute All Gay People By 'Bullets To The Head'

A California man has paid $200 to file a ballot initiative that, if passed, would mandate for all gay people to die by firing squad, rather than risk god's wrath.

A Christian activist would like to see all gay people in California executed by firing squad, just so the rest of the citizenry can avoid having to endure God's "wrath." Matt McLaughlin last week paid $200 to file a ballot initiative with the Attorney General in Sacramento that proposes his Sodomite Suppression Act become law.

McLaughlin calls homosexual sex "buggery," and "sodomy," and labels it "a monstrous evil that Almighty God, giver of freedom and liberty, commands us to suppress on pain of our utter destruction even as he overthrew Sodom and Gomorrha [sic]."

He says that it's "better" that non-gay Californians kill the gays rather than have to suffer God's punishment.

"Seeing that it is better that offenders should die rather than that all of us should be killed by God's just wrath against us for the folly of tolerating-wickedness in our midst, the People of California wisely command, in the fear of God, that any person who willingly touches another person of the same gender for purposes of sexual gratification be put to death by bullets to the head or by any other convenient method."

McLaughlin does not state if minors – say, high school students – would be treated as adults and included in the execution mandate.

The Sodomite Suppression Act (note it's not the "Sodomy" Suppression Act, a clear indication that it's LGBT people, not just homosexual sex that McLaughlin takes issue with) also calls for a one million dollar fine for each act of transmitting, distributing, or performing "sodomistic propaganda" to minors.

And McLaughlin's bill would make it illegal for any gay person to hold public office, be employed by the state, or be granted any benefits, such as welfare, social security, or use any public assets, such as roads.

McLaughlin will have to get 365,000 legitimate California residents to sign up to support the Sodomite Suppression Act in order for it to move forward.

Wonkette has done its research and says that McLaughlin is likely the same person who in 2004 attempted to get the Bible in curriculum studies in public schools, an effort that would probably have been unconstitutional and cost the state about $200 million.
The text of the bill:

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so much for "love the sinner, hate the sin".

I won't be holding my breath waiting for more than a handful of "moderate" Christians to denounce this measure. Certainly no Republican presidential contenders will be among them because, you know, the Iowa Caucuses.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:48 pm
by wesw
he never made it to the new testament I guess....

somehow I don t think jesus would approve of this initiative....

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:24 am
by Gob
How long before Matt McLaughlin is outed as a rampant cock jockey?

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 12:45 am
by Crackpot
Scooter wrote:The Christian Taliban/Al-Qaeda/ISIS strikes again:

I won't be holding my breath waiting for more than a handful of "moderate" Christians to denounce this measure.
Unless this gets more than a handful of signatures I doubt many will see the need. The human race would get nowhere if we collectively felt the need to denounce very stupid thing don by someone preceived as being my on "our side".

As is this story amounts to little more than proof that "A fool and his money are soon parted"

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:28 am
by rubato
Crackpot wrote:
Scooter wrote:The Christian Taliban/Al-Qaeda/ISIS strikes again:

I won't be holding my breath waiting for more than a handful of "moderate" Christians to denounce this measure.
Unless this gets more than a handful of signatures I doubt many will see the need. The human race would get nowhere if we collectively felt the need to denounce very stupid thing don by someone preceived as being my on "our side".

As is this story amounts to little more than proof that "A fool and his money are soon parted"

So you agree that no Muslim is required to condemn Al Qaeda, ISIS, 9-11 &c? A lack of such condemnation does not reflect poorly on them?


yrs,
rubato

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:05 am
by wesw
one guy filing a paper is not quite the same thing as the worldwide jihad movement is it?

now if all the Baptists were saying shoot gay people in the head, I would hope that the Methodists would object.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:09 am
by wesw
just to be clear, I condemn the shooting of gay people in the head.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:11 am
by wesw
I even passed up some really easy jokes too....

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:19 am
by Gob
wesw wrote:just to be clear, I condemn the shooting of gay people in the head.
where do you think they should be shot?

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:23 am
by wesw
must. not. make. joke.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:29 am
by MajGenl.Meade
To date, you're batting 1.000 :ok

I'm considering an Ohio initiative involving cranial-lead implantation for people who misuse the language. There's difficulty with the wording though because so far I've found no one able to comprehend it (other than Diane Chambers and rubato, neither of whom are permitted to sign Ohio ballot measures).

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:29 am
by wesw
oh meade. you re just shooting off at the mouth....

...sorry, I am weak.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:56 pm
by Lord Jim
one guy filing a paper is not quite the same thing as the worldwide jihad movement is it?
That would seem to be a very operative point...

Also it seems to me that the guidelines for beginning an initiative process in California a way over broad if it's even permissible to register a potential initiative that calls for mass murder....

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:10 pm
by rubato
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uganda_Ant ... _Act,_2014
Uganda Anti-Homosexuality Act, 2014

"... From 5 to 8 March 2009, a workshop took place in Kampala, the capital of Uganda, that featured three American evangelical Christians: Scott Lively, an author who has written several books opposing homosexuality; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-professed former gay man who conducts sessions to heal homosexuality; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, an organisation devoted to promoting "freedom from homosexuality through the power of Jesus Christ".[20][21] The theme of the conference, according to The New York Times, was the "gay agenda": "how to make gay people straight, how gay men often sodomized teenage boys and how 'the gay movement is an evil institution' whose goal is 'to defeat the marriage-based society and replace it with a culture of sexual promiscuity' ".[18] An Anglican priest from Zambia named Kapya Kaoma was in attendance, and reported on the conference. Ugandan Stephen Langa organised it, and was supported by Lively, who asserted in his workshops that homosexuality was akin to child molestation and bestiality, and causes higher rates of divorce and HIV transmission. Lively's emphasis was on the cohesion of the African family, that he said was being threatened by "homosexuals looking to recruit youth into their ranks". According to Kaoma, during the conference, one of the thousands of Ugandans in attendance announced, "[The parliament] feels it is necessary to draft a new law that deals comprehensively with the issue of homosexuality and...takes into account the international gay agenda... Right now there is a proposal that a new law be drafted."[22] ...

In November 2012, Uganda agreed to pass a new law against homosexuality by the end of 2012 as a "Christmas gift" to its advocates, according to the speaker of parliament.[25] On 31 December 2012 a number of events took place across Uganda where main stream churches and evangelical pastors united to condemn homosexuality and call for the passage of the Bill, saying passing the Bill would save the nation’s children from being recruited into the vice. Among those in attendance was UK based evangelical preacher Paul Shinners who commended Uganda for the Bill, saying it was a clear stand for God. He said, "There is no other nation world over that has such a plan and through this, Uganda is going to be blessed."[26] Although the death penalty was originally planned to be included in the bill, the Legal Affairs Committee has reported verbally that there is the recommendation to drop the death penalty. The final version did not include the death penalty, but the passage has been seen by many as a green light for anti-gay violence from both the public and the police. There have been a number of beatings and murders since the bill was passed and subsequently signed by the Ugandan President.[8] ... "
The true meaning of Christmas !

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la ... story.html
Op-Ed
How anti-gay Christians evangelize hate abroad
By Kapya Kaoma

If you live in the United States, it's easy to be lulled into thinking that the battle for broader civil rights for gay people is nearly over. The last few years have brought important victories in courts, legislatures and at the ballot box, and momentum is firmly on the side of increased equality.

That's not true, however, in other parts of the world. The vitriol that has fueled U.S. culture wars for so long is now being exported, and some of our most ardent culture warriors are finding a far more receptive audience abroad.

In nations such as Uganda, Russia, Nigeria and Belize, an insidious homophobia engineered in America is taking root. I have seen this hate being spread with my own eyes.
lRelated Why are U.S. taxpayers funding homophobia in Uganda?


In March 2009, while in Kampala, Uganda, researching reports of U.S. right-wing evangelical involvement in attacks on LGBTQ equality and reproductive justice, I was invited to a three-day conference on homosexuality hosted by the Family Life Network, which is based in New York. The keynote speaker was Scott Lively from Springfield, Mass., who introduced himself as a leading expert on the "international homosexual agenda." I filmed Lively over the course of two days as he instructed religious and political leaders about how gays were coming to Uganda from the West to "recruit children into homosexuality."

Some of his assertions would have been laughable had he not been so deadly serious. He claimed that a gay clique that included Adolf Hitler was behind the Holocaust, and he insinuated that gay people fueled the Rwandan genocide.

In the United States, Lively is widely dismissed as an anti-gay firebrand and Holocaust revisionist. But in Uganda, he was presented — and accepted — as a leading international authority. The public persecution of LGBTQ people escalated after Lively's conference, with one local newspaper publishing the pictures and addresses of activists under the headline, "Hang Them."

Lively was also invited to private briefings with political and religious leaders, and to address the Ugandan parliament during his 2009 visit. The next month, Ugandan lawmaker David Bahati unveiled his Anti-Homosexuality Bill, which in its original form called for the death penalty as punishment for a new crime of "aggravated homosexuality."

In recent years, millions of dollars have been funneled from anti-LGBTQ evangelical conservatives to Uganda, funding local pastors and training them to adopt and mirror the culture-war language of the U.S. Christian right. Bahati and a notorious anti-gay pastor, Martin Ssempa, were personally mentored by U.S. conservatives. And powerful Christian right organizations such as the Family Research Council lobbied Congress to change a resolution denouncing the Uganda legislation.

Other prominent right-wing evangelicals have also made Uganda appearances, including California's Rick Warren and Lou Engle, who founded TheCall ministry. They met with politicians, hosted rallies and public meetings, and used their influence and credibility to contribute to a culture war in Uganda much more intense and explosive than anything seen in the United States; Lively himself described the work as a "nuclear bomb" in Uganda. These conservative evangelicals later distanced themselves from the law, saying they didn't think homosexuality should be criminalized, but it was too late.

In December, the Ugandan parliament finally passed the Anti-Homosexuality Bill, and last month President Yoweri Museveni signed it into law. The death penalty provision was removed, but the law includes life sentences for homosexual "repeat offenders" and criminalizes advocacy on behalf of LGBTQ Ugandans.

Or, you can just continue to deny reality.


yrs,
rubato

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:47 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Hey, scum floats. What can you say? Haters gonna hate and all that proves is that they are not Christians after all. They'll have a warm welcome when they least expect it.

Nice of Scooter to begin the subject with three buts though.... :lol:

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:49 pm
by wesw
Uganda? they eat people in Uganda you know, even their ex leader ate people. if the pygmies don t bring home enough game they throw the pygmies in the stew pot.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:52 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
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Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:04 pm
by wesw
eaty aman was his name I think.

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:06 pm
by wesw
the post about eating pygmies is, unfortunately, not a joke....

the main risk to pygmies is over hunting, not only of their game, but of them

Re: But, but but...it's the FAGS that are persecuting Christ

Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:05 pm
by rubato
When the facts are disagreeable, change the subject! The path to perpetual ignorance leads through self-delusion. Aummmmmm.



yrs,
rubato