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not talking about it.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 10:46 pm
by Gob
A former equality chief has branded his years working to stamp out racial discrimination as 'utterly wrong'.

Writer and broadcaster Trevor Phillips said efforts made under the Blair government turned anti-racism into an 'ugly new doctrine'. Mr Phillips is the former chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission and has waged a 30-year campaign to tackle issues around discrimination and equality. In an upcoming Channel 4 documentary, called Things We Won't Say About Race That Are True, he says attempts to stop prejudice instead encouraged abuse and endangered lives as well as contributed to the rise of parties like Ukip.

In the 75-minute documentary, he delves into Britain's racial tensions and stereotypes as well as hostilities towards immigrants. He explains: 'It was my job to to make sure that different racial and religious groups got on. 'Campaigners like me seriously believed that if we could prevent people expressing prejudiced ideas then eventually they would stop thinking them. 'But now I'm convinced we were utterly wrong.'

Mr Phillips, a Labour party member, says anti-racism began with good intentions but turned into 'thought control'. He says the London 2005 bombing by British Muslims, forced him to do rethink his views. Now, he insists that only a willingness to talk more openly about race, despite risk of causing offence, will help those in need.

In the documentary, which airs on March 19, Mr Phillips asks Nigel Farage whether attempts to embrace diversity have led to the rise of Ukip. He also also talks to Tony Blair about how the work begun by New Labour in support of diversity and equality can be revived. Former England footballer Les Ferdinand will also feature in the documentary to highlight racial issues in the sport. And former home secretary Jack Straw, who is also interviewed, tells Mr Phillips that many MPs are wary of expressing their views for fear of being branded racist.

But Mr Phillips insists people should be free to use racial stereotypes, such as that many Jews are rich or that black people are more likely to be convicted for robbery, because they are true. Explaining the issue, he said: 'The dividing lines of race, religion and culture are probably the most dangerous flashpoints in Britain today, but they're also the ones we find hardest to talk about in public.

'This film points to ways in which we can say what's on our minds without being accused of being bigots.' Channel 4 head of specialist factual David Glover, who commissioned the documentary, said: 'This film contains some very uncomfortable facts about race. 'Trevor Phillips now strongly believes that it's important to get them out there, so ultimately we can understand and tackle them. 'Trevor is arguably the best-qualified person in the country to examine these issues,' he continued. 'What's fascinating is that having thought so deeply about them, he now has a very different approach to the subject than he used to.'

Re: not talking about it.

Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 11:04 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
But Mr Phillips insists people should be free to use racial stereotypes, such as that many Jews are rich or that black people are more likely to be convicted for robbery
Academics... yes, if one is making a calm technical point in a paper commenting, for example, on the greater likelihood of poverty within a community leading to people in that community taking to crime and hence being jailed more frequently than those of other communities... that's one thing.

But the use of racial "stereotypes" is not the same thing. These are always hurtful to someone and usually hurtfully intended, though not always.

Re: not talking about it.

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 10:54 pm
by Gob
A child protection charity has said difficult questions about the ethnicity of perpetrators of child sex abuse in Oxford need to be addressed.

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The comments by the Lucy Faithfull Foundation come after a serious case review found errors in the handling of reports of abuse by the authorities. A significant number of perpetrators were of Muslim or Pakistani heritage.

Imam Monowar Hussain said it was "horrible and horrific" that Islam had been associated with the abuse.

Donald Findlater, director of the Lucy Faithfull Foundation, said: "There are tremendous sensitivities here but denial isn't going to get us anywhere and it is a priority that we stare this issue in the face, of ethnicity, partly because it helps us to begin a better engagement with the relative communities where these exploiters come from and where tomorrow's exploiters may come from."


Mr Hussain, of the Oxford Foundation, said the Islamic faith condemned child exploitation as much as any other. He said: "The ordinary, average, young Muslim person living in this country just feels pretty exhausted with this stuff being associated with their culture and religion."

Penny Faust, chairman of the Oxford Council of Faiths, said: "We have to be very careful not to try and pin the blame on any one group of any particular kind of behaviour, because it happens in all communities at all levels of society."

The serious case review was launched after a gang of seven men was jailed in 2013 for abusing six girls in Oxford over an eight-year period. Two of the men were of east African origin and five of Pakistani origin.

Re: not talking about it.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 11:05 pm
by Gob
If you want to understand the full loopiness and intellectual dishonesty of multiculturalism, just talk to my friend Adam, who lectures in African history.

“At least that’s progress,” I said to Adam about one notably dysfunctional African country. “Getting more girls into school is progress, isn’t it?” “I’m not allowed to use the word ‘progress’,” he said. “I’d be sacked if I called it ‘progress’.” “Why?” “Because it would imply that the culture that was there already needed improvement.” “But it does. If you keep a girl in education, she won’t be married off at 12, which means her chances of getting Aids and dying young are reduced. Her country will become more civilised once it has more educated women. That’s what I call progress.” “Obviously, that’s true,” winced the professor, “it’s just not OK to say so.”

To find inconvenient facts suppressed in one leading university may be regarded as censorship. To have an entire society silenced looks like something worse, and far more sinister.


Yet that is the picture of the UK drawn by Trevor Phillips in his excoriating Channel 4 documentary, Things We Won’t Say About Race That Are True, to be screened tomorrow night.
You have to hand it to the former head of the Equalities and Human Rights Commission. It takes guts to tell a story in which your own side, who fancy themselves supremely virtuous, emerge as the baddies.
Tackling taboos: Nigel Farage with Trevor Phillips in Things We Won't Say About Race That Are True

Phillips explains how British people, who dared to express any concern about the rapidly changing face of their country, were shouted down as racist or a bigot. Remember, that’s how Gordon Brown described Labour voter, Gillian Duffy, in 2010. Looking back, Mrs Duffy was rather measured in her complaints, considering the poor woman lived in the once-respectable town of Rotherham, now the child-sex-grooming capital of the Western world, thanks to a group of Pakistani men who make up just 5 per cent of the local population.

“Campaigners like me sincerely believed that if we could prevent people expressing prejudiced thoughts, they’d stop thinking them,” says Phillips. He now says they were “utterly wrong” – although you could argue that a child who is taught in school not to repeat the old racial slurs his parents used will become less of a hater.

The trouble is that, even as the Equalities Commission worked hard to prevent racial stereotypes, a troubling proportion of them, as Phillips concedes ruefully, turn out to be accurate. These are statistics laid out by his programme: a third of London pickpockets are Romanian (how Fagin would have loved them!); black people are six times as likely to be jailed for robbery; the Chinese are tops at people-trafficking; when it comes to drug dealing, Afro-Caribbeans are pathetic amateurs compared to the Colombians; meanwhile, white idiots are the national champs of alcohol-fuelled crime.

Phillips and a Muslim former senior Met officer agreed that the police’s reluctance to use racial profiling arose from an attitude which was basically: “OK, maybe you’d catch more criminals, but they might think we’re a bit racist.”

Tragically and unforgivably, that same attitude led to the death of eight-year-old Victoria Climbie. Multiple explanations were offered by experts for the child’s 128 separate injuries. Any explanation would do, except the real one, which is that her Ivory Coast guardians were cruel, superstitious brutes. As Phillips admits, pretty much everyone who could have saved Victoria “was walking on eggshells”. Thus, the creed of multiculturalism, which was designed to promote racial equality, caused a little girl to be murdered because white people were too embarrassed to accuse her black torturers. Marvellous, eh?


“Like many people faced with inconvenient truths, I thought if I sat on them long enough they’d go away,” says Phillips with a self-knowledge that is rare in our governing classes. Far more typical are the touchy censors who, Phillips reveals, withdrew a timely 2008 film for schools showing a twentysomething South Asian groomer luring white teenage girls into a fancy car and a life of degradation. That was way too realistic, unfortunately, so a second film was made where the groomer was a white teenager. This bore no resemblance to any present danger to any girl ever, but at least it wasn’t offending someone’s culture, except possibly white people. Bad luck, we don’t count.


George Orwell nailed this institutionalised righteousness in his novel Nineteen Eighty-Four, where saying anything against the official party line is a “thoughtcrime”. Even Orwell might have been surprised by the speed with which local authorities, educationalists and the media embraced multiculturalism and all whites became “guilty and tainted”. This new anti-racism bore an uncanny resemblance to the old racism in its boorish blinkeredness. Unwittingly, says Phillips, “we’d given birth to an ugly new doctrine”.

He interviews Ann Cryer, the veteran MP for Keighley, who years ago took up the case of several mothers whose daughters, aged 12 and 13, were being used for sex by local men, nearly all from the Mirpur district of Pakistan. Neither West Yorkshire Police nor Bradford Social Services wanted to know. To the politically correct, this was simply a category error: white people did bad things to black and brown people, not the other way round.

With the authorities meekly condoning multiple “cultures”, however misogynist or backward, and making it a crime to criticise what was unacceptable, brutal or downright illegal, even tolerant people grew angry and disillusioned.
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“The mistake we made,” says Phillips, “was we gave people a kind of cultural exemption from normal, reasonable, decent behaviour.”
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One final thing. In Things We Won’t Say About Race, there is a clip of the young Phillips, then President of the National Union of Students, appearing on Question Time with Robin Day in 1983. Clever Trevor, a handsome, articulate young man, is condescended to by an audience of white people who look on him as if he were a visitor from outer space. Their hope, clearly, is that he be repatriated to his own planet as soon as possible.

Well, folks, he stayed put and fought his way to the truth. Because of him, the polite silence about racial differences is broken. And that’s progress.
'Things We Won’t Say About Race That Are True' is on Channel 4 on Thursday 19 March, 9pm

Re: not talking about it.

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:11 pm
by rubato
Gob wrote:
"... 'Campaigners like me seriously believed that if we could prevent people expressing prejudiced ideas then eventually they would stop thinking them.... "



Well yes, anyone who claims that merely stopping people from saying something will change their attitudes about it is a fool. But why he had that oddly delusional idea to start with I don't know.


The Soviet Union stopped the expression of certain forms of anti-semitism by the use of heavy-handed social control; and anti-semitism immediately reappeared decades later in Romania and other iron curtain countries when the Soviet repression was lifted (per Andre Codrescu's descriptions and the testimony of my Czech colleague).


yrs,
rubato