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Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!!!

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 12:39 am
by Gob
A Jehovah's Witness' seven-year-old son has been taken into care because she damaged him with her 'religious beliefs and practices', a family court judge has ruled.

Judge Clifford Bellamy concluded that the boy had suffered 'emotional harm' from his mother and decided he would be better off with foster parents.
The young boy had been disruptive in school during lessons touching on Christianity, destroying projects and calling bible stories lies, a court heard.
Social services also believed the unnamed little boy was also at the centre of a rift between his parents so will no longer be living with either of them.

Detail of the case has emerged in a written ruling by the judge following a family court hearing in Leicester but Judge Bellamy said no-one involved could be identified.
A member of staff at the youngster's school had told how the boy had said he 'could not be with people who didn't believe in Jehovah', said the judge.
The little boy had cut up materials his class was using in an exercise about the 'Crucifixion story' and had said, 'nobody's telling the true stories about Jehovah', the judge heard.
He had also 'presented as contemptuous, grimacing somewhat theatrically' when speaking about the 'non-Jehovah's Witness Bible'.

'I am satisfied that (he) has suffered emotional harm,' said Judge Bellamy. 'I am satisfied that the fact that (he) has been immersed by his mother in her religious beliefs and practices has been a significant factor in causing that emotional harm.'

Re: Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!!!

Posted: Sat May 23, 2015 9:44 pm
by Lord Jim
I don't believe this would ever be seen as sufficient justification for breaking up a family in the US. (Nor should it be) Unless the parents are encouraging him to act out in class, (which I doubt) the only "abuse" I see here is his parents teaching their child their religious beliefs. I think the judge in this case let the fact that he doesn't approve of those beliefs color his judgement.

Re: Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 1:45 pm
by Big RR
I would agree with you on that Jim; however most US courts would at least insist that the parents address the child's problems of being disruptive and destructive in school, and get him psychological help to control himself. Failure to address it properly could then be seen as abuse of the child, regardless of their religious beliefs (just as it would if they denied him medical treatment).

Of course, in US public schools, I don't think they'd be teaching biblical lessons or the crucifixion story, especially in the lower grades (although some secondary schools might touch on it in comparative religion coursework), so it wouldn't be as much of a problem. Yet another reason to separate church and state IMHO.

Re: Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 6:40 pm
by liberty
Big RR wrote:I would agree with you on that Jim; however most US courts would at least insist that the parents address the child's problems of being disruptive and destructive in school, and get him psychological help to control himself. Failure to address it properly could then be seen as abuse of the child, regardless of their religious beliefs (just as it would if they denied him medical treatment).

Of course, in US public schools, I don't think they'd be teaching biblical lessons or the crucifixion story, especially in the lower grades (although some secondary schools might touch on it in comparative religion coursework), so it wouldn't be as much of a problem. Yet another reason to separate church and state IMHO.
As I read it, I was thinking something quite similar except perhaps a spanking might be appropriate.

Re: Jehovah! Jehovah! Jehovah!!!

Posted: Tue May 26, 2015 7:22 pm
by Econoline


(The website where I found this commented, "I know this video is hard to watch, several times the young lady becomes so choked up she can barely speak, but I urge you to watch until the end. Her message at the end is especially poignant.

"Besides, if she was brave enough to share her story, we should at least be courageous enough to listen."
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