Giving religion a bad name

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Anderson has become well-known for his unique brand of hatred. Not only does he feel that women are not worthwhile enough to so much as say “Amen” in church (because that would give the impression that they have the right to declare something to be true), but Anderson routinely expresses his displeasure with the LGBTQ community.




Last December, the pastor earned himself national attention when he presented his “Biblical” cure for AIDS — one that was rather Hitlerian in nature. To get rid of AIDS, Anderson explained, it was necessary only to round up every single “faggot” and kill them. Then, poof! No more AIDS! “If you executed the homos like God recommends,” Anderson explained, “you wouldn’t have all this AIDS running rampant.”


Unsurprisingly, when Anderson learned that right-wing nutcase Bruce Jenner had transitioned into the lovely Caitlyn Jenner, he had to speak his piece — and just like Barack Obama, Jenner has to die. In his Sunday morning sermon, Anderson explained that there are some sins people commit for which you can pray — but people like Josh Duggar, Mao Tse Tung, and…”filthy transvestite” Caitlyn Jenner(?!?) should just die.

“Bruce Jenner has mutilated his body basically,” Anderson said at the end of his sermon, “and he’s being praised by our President. Our President Obama is praising him — or praising her. We don’t even know what it is.”

“I think that he used the female pronoun about somebody named Bruce,” Anderson continued. “Our President is praising the wicked, here, okay?”

“This filthy pervert is on all these magazine covers and just everywhere being crammed down our throat,” Anderson told his congregation. “Hundreds of millions of people are being subjected to looking at a trans freak. And this person is the evangelist of sodomy and filth to the world.”

Anderson says that praying for Jenner to find Jesus is useless — but he will be offering up a prayer:

“I’m going to pray that he dies and goes to Hell. Are you serious? Look, I have nothing but hate — when I see a man dressed up as a woman, who has mutilated his body to become a woman, and say ‘Hey, look at me everybody. Look at me kids!’ I mean, the kids in America today — 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 10 years old are seeing this freak and having their minds perverted and ruined permanently. Listen to me, I hate him with a perfect hatred. I have no love — NO LOVE — for this Bruce freak. I hope he dies today. I hope he dies and goes to Hell. He’s disgusting, he’s filthy, he’s reprobate. I would pray all these prayers in Psalm 69. I would pray all this in Psalm 69 and 129 toward him.”

“You evil, filthy animal that’s destroying the morals of our country,” Anderson said as his rant continued. “DIE!”

He explained that he’s not hateful — he loves ‘Murika, after all — but “that guy will never find Jesus,” so it is pointless to pray for him. “The Bible says he’s reprobate.”

For those who do choose to pray for Caitlyn Jenner, for those who hope God “touches his heart,” Anderson agrees — though not in the manner a sane person would mean.

“I hope God touches his heart like this,” Anderson said as he performed a ‘crushing’ motion. “That’s how I want him to touch his heart. I pray that his heart would explode right now. Filthy, disgusting reprobate — am I living in the Twilight Zone?”

Watch Anderson’s anti-LGBTQ hate speech, below:
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The preacher might be upset because he is having trouble accepting that he is attracted to Bruce...

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I don't think he gives religion a bad name - he gives assholes a bad name. Obviously he should be at Westboro. If the snakes are all in one basket, it's much easier to take care of them.

What the f*** is the Q now? How many initial letters are we going to end up with? Mind you, it's good to know that the LG's are now getting lumped together with unfortunate people who have physical and mental issues that can be cured with medical and psychological assistance.

This is supposed to be irony - not an insult
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he must ve read a different bible , jesus never mentioned that stuff in mine....

psalms gave me great comfort and strength and hope and faith and love. he must be talking about the "my enemy" bits . kinda of a screwed up way to twist the power of those parts if you ask me. they gave me strength when I needed it and were very relevant to my life at that time. the bible always seemed to be timely......

...almost like some higher power made it just for me....

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Anderson has some anger issues he needs to work on. Also some defects of character he should pray that God will remove from him. And he needs to be more forgiving.

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By any reasonable standard, this clown is a complete non-entity who is in no position to "give religion a bad name"...

I tried to get some sort of info on the membership of his "Faithful Word Baptist Church" and the best I could do is an article from 2009 that reported him conducting a service with 25 people in attendance...(no word on how many of those were media types...)

From the video in the OP, it looks like he's got 2 people there...

His "church" is located in store space in a strip mall:

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So, this guy represents even less as a "church" than the Westboro crazies, but like that bunch he's getting publicity waaaay out of proportion to his significance...(If he got publicity proportionate to his significance, he'd get zero publicity.)

And of course he's able to do this, because many in the liberal mainstream press are constantly desperately trying to find examples of "Christian" ministers that they can equate with the hate-filled Islamo-fascist Imams... (who have at least tens of thousands of followers...)

I wonder how long it will be before I see some moron in the media compare this pathetic loser to Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi... (the leader of ISIS)
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Meade--
What the f*** is the Q now
I don't know for certain, but I have always assumed it was for those who were questioning their sexual identities.

And of course he's able to do this, because many in the liberal mainstream press are constantly desperately trying to find examples of "Christian" ministers that they can equate with the hate-filled Islamo-fascist Imams
There you go again... :roll:

this guy needs no "liberal" press to find him--he's doing a pretty good job od spreading his brand of hatred (see the first quote about rounding up faggots and killing people). Personally, I don't see people like this as dangerous, more like ridiculous and pathetic, as well as something mainstream chrisitians should distance themselves from.

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Amen to that Big RR (just want to make it clear that the 'liberal press' quote is not mine)
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There you go being right again... :roll:
FTFY
this guy needs no "liberal" press to find him-
Well, they certainly seem to be doing an awfully good job of it:
Wife of Holocaust-denying Arizona pastor slams Duggar clan as too “liberal” and “worldly”

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/27/wife_of ... d_worldly/
Zsuzsanna Anderson: Wife Of Controversial Pastor Slams Duggars As ‘Too Liberal,’ Calls Josh A ‘Reprobate’

http://www.inquisitr.com/2128082/zsuzsa ... reprobate/
Meet the Pastor Who Told Me He Hoped I Got Brain Cancer and Died

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michelang ... 75954.html
Arizona pastor predicts ‘AIDS-free Christmas’ if all gays are killed, as God commands

http://www.rawstory.com/2014/12/arizona ... -commands/
WATCH: Pastor Calls for LGBT Holocaust to Eradicate AIDS by Christmas

http://www.advocate.com/politics/religi ... -christmas

Pastor Steven L. Anderson Wants Women Silent In Church -- Not Even An 'Amen'


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/2 ... 35528.html
Pastor Steven Anderson Says ‘AIDS-Free World By Christmas’ Is Possible If LGBT People Are ‘Executed’

http://www.ibtimes.com/pastor-steven-an ... re-1734250
Arizona pastor uses sermon to urge killing gays for an AIDS-free world by Christmas

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nationa ... -1.2034678

Is there a right way to respond to extreme homophobia?


To paraphrase “The Sound of Music,” how do you solve a problem like Steve Anderson?

While the nation’s eyes were on Ferguson and Staten Island, Pastor Steven Anderson found time on Nov. 30 to deliver a sermon at his Faithful Word Baptist Church in Tempe, Ariz., ...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html
US pastor Steven Anderson says gay people should be executed for an 'Aids free Christmas'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 03543.html
CNN's Rick Sanchez Dissects Steven Anderson's Obama-Hatred

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/blogs/cn ... ry-6502041
And on and on and on...

It took about 30 seconds to do the Google searches; it would take several hours to copy and paste links to all the stories...(and that's just from well known media sites; not the off-brand blogs...)
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meanwhile, nothing about the new batch of Christians kidnapped in Libya....

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Big RR wrote:Meade--
What the f*** is the Q now
I don't know for certain, but I have always assumed it was for those who were questioning their sexual identities.
It stands for either queer or questioning; sometimes you'll see it as LGBTQQ which covers both options.
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It took about 30 seconds to do the Google searches; it would take several hours to copy and paste links to all the stories...(and that's just from well known media sites; not the off-brand blogs...)
I'm not saying that these idiots don't get press; loudmouths always do. We have a cult of celebrity that appears to revel in the outrageous--just look at all the "reality" shows (Real Housewives of ..., etc.) and how people with no discernible talent (like the Kardashians) are always in the public eye. Clowns like this are part of the media circus; we don't need any left wing conspiracy to explain it.

BSG--is "queer" different from "gay"? If so, what does it connote?

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Gay is a person who is attracted to same sex and can refer to either gender, but lesbians generally prefer to be called lesbian. (Like anything, it's up to the individual and some gay folks aren't picky about terminology while some are very, very picky.)

Queer was a pejorative term for many years and the gay community began to reclaim it in the mid-late 80s as the HIV/AIDS epidemic in that community spurred the movement that has brought us to where we are with marriage equality (hopefully) about to be enshrined by the SCOTUS.

Queer is really about being non-normative; it references sexuality but also art, literature, music, etc. and especially activist politics in the gay community. Because of the association with activism and/or radical politics, many more conservative gay folks don't like the term and don't care to be associated with it.

The Wikipedia entry is pretty good and gives a much more articulate explanation than I have.
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any left wing conspiracy to explain it.
I'm not suggesting a "conspiracy"...

None is required; the personal political and ideological inclinations of the individual journalists lead them to treat these Anderson types as meaning more than they do....

They don't all have to get together to decide to do it....

When I refer to "the liberal mainstream press" I'm referencing the fact that the vast majority of the members of the mainstream press are liberals and that this informs their news judgement...

I'm not referring to some cabal with a secret handshake....
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Big RR wrote: BSG--is "queer" different from "gay"? If so, what does it connote?
It is intended to represent a broader spectrum of individual sexuality beyond the straight/gay labels.
GAH!

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Thanks BSG and Sue. That makes some sense.

Jim--perhaps conspiracy was misplaced, but I think these people generate their own publicity and get their "fame" precisely because that's kind of jerks society loves to hear--nothing to do with comparison to ranting imams or anything else, we just love watching the clowns.

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Thank you for the explanations. I shall be looking at old James Bond movies in a new (and softer) light....
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Are you referring to the transsexual actress in "For Your Eyes Only"?

http://www.snopes.com/movies/films/bondgirl.asp

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9G-wNWkxzo

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For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts

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