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Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:05 am
by Gob
A sign that appeared to issue a warning about Jews that was seen near a north London synagogue was actually part of a street art project.
French-born artist Franck Allais, who has lived in London for 16 years, told BuzzFeed News he was sorry for any offence caused by the sign, which was reported to police by local neighbourhood watch groups and condemned by MPs.
Allais, 43, said the sign was part of a project celebrating London’s “different identities”.
He said that over the last three years he had put up 20 other signs featuring silhouettes of photos he had taken in those same locations, such as runners, a woman with her shopping, a dog-walker, and a cat, to indicate the different people who live in London.
“I apologise,” he said. “The last thing I wanted to do was to hurt people.”
The image was shared by local neighbourhood watch group Shomrim after it was reported to the group by a passerby in Stamford Hill on Tuesday. It showed an Orthodox Jewish man wearing a fedora hat.
“The people of Stamford Hill are very sadly used to instances of anti-Semitic hate crime, but most of those times it will be verbal abuse or even assault,” Barry Bard, of the local group, told the BBC.
It was immediately condemned by MPs.
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:06 pm
by Lord Jim
That looks more like "Warning: Charlie Chaplin Impersonators" to me...
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:49 pm
by Crackpot
I think it's the wide brim and long sideburns Jim. (Zoom in)
Edited to add a "n" to "log"
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:59 pm
by Lord Jim
Ahh, now I get it...
You really have to look closely to see the sideburns and how big the hat is...
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:55 pm
by Big RR
I thought it was an Amish guy.
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:53 pm
by Joe Guy
I thought it was a Jew Crossing sign.
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:40 am
by Gob
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:45 pm
by Sue U
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 1:09 pm
by Big RR
The image aside, what does a red bordered triangular sign mean in Cornwall? In the US, putting the image in an octagonal sign would connote something different from putting it in, say, a rectangular one.
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:06 pm
by Lord Jim
I decided to look up the history of "Market Jew Street"...
My assumption was that I would find that it was probably hundreds of years old, and most likely got its name from being located in what was the Jewish section of the town, and was probably the street where the Jewish merchants living in the area sold their wares...
Well, I was right about the hundreds of years old part, but there seems to be some dispute about how the street got its name (and whether it has anything to do with Jewish people at all):
Market Jew Street? An unusual name, no? London’s Old Jewry is named after the Jews who lived is that ghetto of medieval London.
A discussion ensues.
John Coles says:
(NOTE; Marazion is the ancient town giving access via a causeway to St. Michaels Mount. Often called in the past ‘Market Jew’ (hence, Market Jew Street in nearby Penzance) this was said to be one of the trading and shipment points from which the ‘jews’ (?Phoenicians) ran the early tin industry, and shipped the tin overseas. Marazion is in Mounts Bay (where the Wherry Mine was situated in a reef about 3 miles south west.
Vince says:
Market Jew Street derives its name from the Cornish “Marghas Yow” which means Thursday Market. Neither the name Marazion or Market Jew Street has anything to do with Jewish people.
Wikipedia surmises:
Little in the way of corroboration exists for the following speculations; however, mining has occurred in Pendeen for over 3000 years. 2000 years ago the Romans brought Jews to Pendeen to work the mines. These Jews, suggests Horsefield, came as slaves from the then recently sacked Jerusalem. Moreover, when Horsefield wrote his book, he claimed that locals still called a piece of tin a ‘Jew’s piece’. Jewish influence can be witnessed around Pendeen through names such as the village ‘Bojewyn’ (meaning ‘abode of the Jews’); (Bojewyn is more likely to be translated from its Brythonic origins as meaning “John’s Place”, Jowan being a common Cornish family and first name whilst the prefix “Bos” could be most likely referring to a location or domain; Bosjowan is converted to Bojewyn through development of the indigenous dialect of West Penwith. ‘Market Jew street’ in Penzance, and the small town of ‘Marazion’ (of St Michael’s Mount fame).
Or as Wikipedia says elsewhere:
The name Market Jew comes from the Cornish language Marghas Yow, meaning Thursday Market, the name of a nearby village now absorbed into Marazion, to which Market Jew Street leads.
http://www.anorak.co.uk/379661/strange- ... kers.html/
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:39 pm
by Gob
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:52 pm
by Econoline
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:09 pm
by Big RR
Thanks gob; given the shape of the sign and its meaning, I could see how some might find such a warning sign ("Warning....Jews Ahead") offensive, whether that was the intent or not.
Beware of the Jews
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:07 pm
by RayThom
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:49 pm
by Joe Guy
'Beware of Michael Jackson' ?
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:15 pm
by Bicycle Bill
RayThom wrote:
Notice first the dashed lines which indicate a crosswalk. Now observe that the figure on the sign has three young children in tow (and a fourth in the pram), his pockets appear to be turned inside-out, and his straggly hair ... which means he apparently can't even afford to get a decent haircut.
It's obvious. This sign clearly means
CAUTION:
'Penniless man whose wife took everything and left him with the kids' crossing
-"BB"-
Re: Beware of the Jews
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2017 10:48 pm
by rubato
Lyrics for "Poor Papa" a little different from those on the piano roll:
"Now, don't get married, don't get married", said my friend Mc Bride
If you take a wife, you're out of luck for life
He had all his little sons and daughters by his side
Like happy hooligans, sixteen kids, they all lined up and cried
Mama's got shoes, Mama's got clothes
Mama's got these and Mama's got those
But poor Papa, poor Papa, he's got nothin' at all
Mama goes here, Mama goes there
Mama goes out to every affair
But poor Papa, poor Papa, he waits out in the hall
Now, Christmas comes and Mama gets
The most expensive frocks
Papa gets a necktie
And a pair of ten cent socks **
Everyone cheers when Mama appears
And she's got diamonds stuck in her ears
But poor Papa, poor Papa, he's got nothin' at all
And Mama eats ham, Mama eats lamb
Mama eats bread with strawberry jam
And poor Papa, poor Papa, he eats nothin' at all
Mama says "Oh!", Mama says "Ah!"
Mama says "Boo!" and Mama says "Bah!"
But poor Papa, poor Papa, he says nothin' at all
Papa bought a limousine
And the most expensive kind
Now he wears a chaffeur's suit, hah-hah
And Mama rides behind
Mama's got silk, satin beneath
She's got gold in all of her teeth
But poor Papa, poor Papa, he's got no teeth at all