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Advent, explained

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This has to be the funniest and most educational exposition on Advent I have ever seen, with the follow-up comments and questions just as good. (The conceit is that we live in an alternate universe where Christians are a small minority here in Medinat ["the nation of'] America, which operates on Judeo-normative social conventions. This thread is styled as a memo to teachers in a local public school district to help them understand and be sensitive to practices of their Christian pupils.)

(Edited to add translations of terms that may not be familiar to everyone)
#DearTeachers,

We are still weeks away from #Chanukah (even though sufganiyot [holiday doughnuts] have already been on bakery shelves for weeks! WHY??), but we are entering into what our #Christian friends refer to as "The Christian Holiday Season."

Did you know that #Christians have more #chagim [holidays] than just Yom [day of] Saint Francis Ha’Kadosh [the holy, honorific] ?

Surprisingly, in countries like #MedinatVatican, the #HolidaySeason is beginning now!

Although it is natural for us to feel sorry for the Christian children whose parents make them miss out on the joy of celebrating the fall chagim with EVERYONE, some Christian families find their own winter chagim to be just as #joyful and fulfilling!

This week, Christians began their celebration of the First Christian Omer [ritual counting of days], which they refer to as “#Advent,” meaning “arrival.”

Christians count the weeks of the First Christian Omer using a special menorah. This past First Day [Sunday], they lit their first candle.

The First Christian Omer Menorah, which is also called an “Advent wreath,” is a circular menorah with four or five candles, frequently decorated with greenery, used to count the weeks until Yom Christmas.

Unlike a normal menorah, for which we use any color of candles, Christian halacha [religious law] mandates that the First Christian Omer menorah must have three purple candles and one pink candle.

In the four weeks leading up to Yom #Christmas, one candle is lit on each First Day, the three purple candles first, and then the pink.

For the purpose of tosefet “Advent,” some Christians add a single white candle as well, usually from a Shabbat set, to be lit on Yom Christmas.

Unlike a normal #menorah, the First Christian Omer menorah uses large candles, which are sold in a pack of only four candles.

The whole candle is not allowed to burn down— the same candle is reused the following week, so Christian families must be careful not to allow their candles to burn too long, lest the first-lit candle not last until the end of the holiday.

Families identifying as Christian observe a variety of different #holidays in this #season, but all of the holidays have their dates calculated based on Yom Christmas.

This may be why Christians tend to say “Happy Holidays” even when context makes it clear that they only mean Yom Christmas and not normal holidays like #Sigd, #Chanukkah, or #Kwanzaa.

The first yom tov [holiday, as a specific day of observance] that falls in this period is Yom Saint Nikolas Ha’Kadosh, the yahrzeit [memorial] of a popular Christian tzaddik [righteous person].

Yom Christmas, celebrating the birth of the Christian prophet comes next, and it is the yom tov at the start of a 12-day period popularly called the Shneim-Asar Yemei [12 days of] Christmas.

Some Christians will ask to take #vacations on the many days of chol Ha’Mo’ed [period between two days of observance that start and end a mutli-day holiday, during which work and ordinary activities are permitted] that fall during the Shneim-Asar Yemei Christmas. This period includes an additional day of yom tov, namely, the Pope Gregory Rosh Hashanah (the bris [circumcision] of the Christian prophet).

The Shneim Asar Yemei Christmas end with a yom tov the day after the 12th day of Christmas, called “#Epiphany”. On this date, the Three Wise Guys are said to have visited the newborn prophet to give him gifts.

Christian halacha does not prohibit work on any of the above holidays, and the two most widely celebrated holidays, Yom Christmas and the Pope Gregory Rosh Hashanah, both fall on a weekend this year.

These chagim last only one day, even outside Medinat Vatican. Therefore, you should ask for a letter from a student’s Christian rabbi if they are asking to be excused from school at any point during the Christian holiday season this year.

Due to the weekend timing of the main holidays, there is no need to offer alternate dates for exams or other school functions.

I hope you've had a #ShavuaTov [good week] and will have a #ShabbatShalom!

Rambam County #PublicSchools Superintendent Mandelboim

#MedinatAmerica
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Ha ha all pretty offensive.

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TPFKA@W wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 5:31 pm
Ha ha all pretty offensive.
Why offensive? (BTW, there are a lot of obviously Christian and other scholars who follow this account and their commentary really is quite informative, especially when helping out with JWHIA's well-intentioned cluelessness.)
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Not as offensive as this: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=22625

Still one of the all time stupidest and most out of touch things ever posted on this board.
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Sue U wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 4:58 pm
This has to be the funniest and most educational exposition on Advent I have ever seen, with the follow-up comments and questions just as good. (The conceit is that we live in an alternate universe where Christians are a small minority here in Medinat ["the nation of'] America, which operates on Judeo-normative social conventions. This thread is styled as a memo to teachers in a local public school district to help them understand and be sensitive to practices of their Christian pupils.)
I shall definitely be sharing this with the rabbi at our local synagogue, as well as the pastor of my own church.
Incidentally, I was invited by the rabbi to share in their communal celebration of Hanukkah again.

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Just stirring the pot Sue. I am an agnostic and have no dog in the fight. I find all religion ridiculous and I shake my head at "faith".

There. That should add a log to the offense fire.

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TPFKA@W wrote:
Thu Dec 01, 2022 8:10 pm
I am an agnostic and have no dog in the fight. I find all religion ridiculous and I shake my head at "faith".
Girl, same. (Except I would call myself an atheist, not agnostic.) But that doesn't stop me from exploring my religious heritage for things that are useful and/or beautiful to enhance living in this world.

I have read that of the numerous disputes presented in the Talmud, only a small fraction are actually resolved in the text. Instead, various points of view are represented and the reader is basically left to decide what approach seems right for them. The same is true of other commentaries on the Tanakh ("Hebrew Bible") that are fundamentally debates across millennia by some very smart and insightful people, all engaged in a search for what it means to live a worthy life. I like our holidays because of their significance both to our peoplehood and to acknowledging the seasons of the land (planting, first fruits, fall harvest). There is so much more to "religion" than Rules of a Skydaddy.
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They left out the chocolates in the calendar. Some is even Divine.

https://www.amazon.com/Divine-Chocolate ... 7WR5&psc=1

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Very important that the candles be carefully selected, so they all last during the entire advent, so the last time they are burning, they are at four different heights.

Traditions are everything. That is why the holiday is so difficult for christians, Each family has its own traditions. Each member of the greater family gets together for the holiday. Thus no member is able to observe all their own traditions. Christianity is a wonderfully contradictory religion. Each individual must decide which part of the traditions are the fire, which is only ashes.

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