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Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:43 pm
by Gob
US President Barack Obama has held private talks with the exiled Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, despite strong criticism from China.

Mr Obama told the Dalai Lama of his "strong support" for human rights in Tibet, a White House statement said.

Beijing released an angry statement saying the meeting had damaged relations between the two countries.

Mr Obama's last meeting with the Dalai Lama in February 2010 also drew strong condemnation from Beijing.

The talks - which lasted about 45 minutes - were held in the Map Room rather than the Oval Office, which is traditionally reserved for visiting heads of state.

"The president reiterated his strong support for the preservation of the unique religious, cultural and linguistic traditions of Tibet and the Tibetan people throughout the world," the White House statement said.

"He underscored the importance of the protection of human rights of Tibetans in China."

Mr Obama also reiterated that the US considers Tibet to be part of China, and said that he encouraged "direct dialogue to resolve long-standing differences".

The closed-door meeting came just hours before the Dalai Lama was scheduled to leave Washington at the end of an 11-day Buddhist ritual.

China had earlier warned the US not to receive the Dalai Lama.

"Such an act has grossly interfered in China's internal affairs, hurt the feelings of Chinese people and damaged the Sino-American relations," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said in a written statement following the meeting.

"We demand the US side to seriously consider China's stance, immediately adopt measures to wipe out the baneful impact, stop interfering in China's internal affairs and cease to connive and support anti-China separatist forces that seek 'Tibet independence'," Mr Ma said.

The White House has not commented on Beijing's displeasure.

The Chinese authorities have long vilified the Dalai Lama as a "splittist", although he has repeatedly stated that his goal is for meaningful Tibetan autonomy rather than independence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-14174944

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:47 pm
by loCAtek
Woo-Hoo Spirituality!

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:52 pm
by rubato
Bush sucked the Chinese asses by putting them in the WTO weeks after they knocked down our plane and kidnapped the crew.

yrs,
rubato

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:55 pm
by Gob
loCAtek wrote:Woo-Hoo Spirituality!
It's nothing to do with spirituality, idiot.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:07 pm
by Rick
US Ships in Vietnam to Train With Former Foe

I don't know who's idea but in the long run I believe it will be shown to be a good one...

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:15 am
by Lord Jim
I agree Keld....

As with the Dalai Lama meeting, it's important that the US make clear that it will not yield to the arrogant demands of these thugs. To do so would only invite further demands.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:59 pm
by Gob
The Dalai Lama was on Masterchef here last night, guest judge in the vegetarian meal challenge.

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Woo-Hoo Spirituality!

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:14 pm
by The Hen
Woo-Hoo, Coriander!

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:35 am
by Sean
Lord Jim wrote:I agree Keld....

As with the Dalai Lama meeting, it's important that the US make clear that it will not yield to the arrogant demands of these thugs. To do so would only invite further demands.
It's about time that someboby had the courage to stand up and show the Dalai Lama (almost an anagram of Daily Mail BTW...) for the thug he is!

:lol:

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:11 am
by loCAtek
Gob wrote:
loCAtek wrote:Woo-Hoo Spirituality!
It's nothing to do with spirituality, idiot.

the Dali Llama isn't spiritual? Not like I believe you anywayZ

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:57 am
by The Hen
I thought the meeting was about human rights.

Yep, after re-reading the article, it was about human rights.

The Masterchef challenge was interesting, though.

:D

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 4:10 am
by Gob
loCAtek wrote:
the Dali Llama isn't spiritual?
The Dalai Lama was meeting Obama to discuss the Tibetan situation, nothing to do with; "Woo-Hoo Spirituality!" And what does "Woo-Hoo Spirituality!" mean in any case? (Not that I'm expecting a rational answer to that one.)

loCAtek wrote: Not like I believe you anywayZ
I believe I know enough to give him the proper respect, such as spelling his name correctly.

Oh, and while we're on the subject, our resident Buddhist,
To undertake the training to abstain from substances which cause intoxication and heedlessness. This precept is in a special category as it does not infer any intrinsic evil in, say, alcohol itself but indulgence in such a substance could be the cause of breaking the other four precepts.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 5:44 am
by Scooter
But that's just dogma, not spirituality :loon

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 8:40 am
by Sean
loCAtek wrote:the Dali Llama
A surreal llama?

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Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:03 am
by loCAtek
The Dalai Lama, who has met with various U.S. leaders during his stay in Washington, said he felt a “spirit of reunion” with Obama, said Kate Saunders, a spokeswoman for the Washington-based International Campaign for Tibet.

“(Obama) is naturally showing some concern for basic human values, human rights, religious freedom,” the Dalai Lama said after the meeting, according to Saunders. “Naturally, he shows genuine concern about the suffering in Tibet and also other places,” she quoted the Dalai Lama as saying.

As for me, my monk adviser of three years, understands well; a precept is not a commandment, and is being very patient and supportive.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:12 am
by Scooter
Probably because he figures the karma you are building in this life will cause you to be born with fetal alcohol syndrome in the next one.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 2:01 am
by loCAtek
Nope, he's a very compassionate person and hopes I realize my 'Buddha-nature'. it's in all of us, 'eh?


Wiki

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 3:36 am
by Scooter
In some hidden much, much, much deeper than others.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:35 pm
by loCAtek
True, it's not for us to judge.

Re: Obama stands up to China!

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 10:39 pm
by Sean
And yet you are quick to judge those who do not share your 'beliefs'...