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Theft is a crime.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 12:36 am
by Gob
Up to 300,000 Spanish babies were stolen from their parents and sold for adoption over a period of five decades, a new investigation reveals.


The children were trafficked by a secret network of doctors, nurses, priests and nuns in a widespread practice that began during General Franco’s dictatorship and continued until the early Nineties. Hundreds of families who had babies taken from Spanish hospitals are now battling for an official government investigation into the scandal. Several mothers say they were told their first-born children had died during or soon after they gave birth.
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Identity crisis: Randy Ryder as a baby being cradled in a Malaga hospital in 1971 by the woman who bought him
But the women, often young and unmarried, were told they could not see the body of the infant or attend their burial. In reality, the babies were sold to childless couples whose devout beliefs and financial security meant that they were seen as more appropriate parents. Official documents were forged so the adoptive parents’ names were on the infants’ birth certificates. In many cases it is believed they were unaware that the child they received had been stolen, as they were usually told the birth mother had given them up.

Journalist Katya Adler, who has investigated the scandal, says: ‘The situation is incredibly sad for thousands of people.

‘There are men and women across Spain whose lives have been turned upside-down by discovering the people they thought were their parents actually bought them for cash. There are also many mothers who have maintained for years that their babies did not die – and were labelled “hysterical” – but are now discovering that their child has probably been alive and brought up by somebody else all this time.’

Experts believe the cases may account for up to 15 per cent of the total adoptions that took place in Spain between 1960 and 1989. It began as a system for taking children away from families deemed politically dangerous to the regime of General Franco, which began in 1939. The system continued after the dictator’s death in 1975 as the Catholic church continued to retain a powerful influence on public life, particularly in social services. It was not until 1987 that the Spanish government, instead of hospitals, began to regulate adoptions.

The scandal came to light after two men, Antonio Barroso and Juan Luis Moreno, discovered they had been stolen as babies. Mr Moreno’s ‘father’ confessed on his deathbed to having bought him as a baby from a priest in Zaragoza in northern Spain. He told his son he had been accompanied on the trip by Mr Barroso’s parents, who bought Antonio at the same time for 200,000 pesetas – a huge sum at the time. ‘That was the price of an apartment back then,’ Mr Barroso said. ‘My parents paid it in instalments over the course of ten years because they did not have enough money.’

DNA tests have proved that the couple who brought up Mr Barroso were not his biological parents and the nun who sold him has admitted to doing so.

When the pair made their case public, it prompted mothers all over the country to come forward with their own experiences of being told their babies had died, but never believing it. One such woman was Manoli Pagador, who has begun searching for her son. In some cases, babies’ graves have been exhumed, revealing bones that belong to adults or animals. Some of the graves contained nothing at all.

The BBC documentary features an interview with an 89-year-old woman named Ines Perez, who admitted that a priest encouraged her to fake a pregnancy so she could be given a baby girl due to be born at Madrid’s San Ramon clinic in 1969. ‘The priest gave me padding to wear on my stomach,’ she says. It is claimed that the San Ramon clinic was one of the major centres for the practice. Many mothers who gave birth there claim that when they asked to see their child after being told it had died, they were shown a baby’s corpse that appeared to be freezing cold. The BBC programme shows photographs taken in the Eighties of a dead baby kept in a freezer, allegedly to show grieving mothers.

Despite hundreds of families of babies who disappeared in Spanish hospitals calling on the government to open an investigation into the scandal, no nationally co-ordinated probe has taken place. As a result of amnesty laws passed after Franco’s death, crimes that took place during his regime are usually not examined. Instead, regional prosecutors across the country are investigating each story on a case-by-case basis, with 900 currently under review. But Ms Adler says: ‘There is very little political will to get to the bottom of the situation.’

There are believed to be thousands more cases that will never come to light because the stolen children fear their adoptive parents will be seen as criminals. Many of the families of stolen babies have taken DNA tests in the hope of eventually being matched with their children. Some matches have already been made but, without a nationally co-ordinated database, reuniting lost relatives will be a very difficult process.



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Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:15 pm
by Scooter
Wow, and Russian police had nothing to do with it.

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:41 pm
by Sean
The Russian dogs kept them away from it.

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:34 pm
by rubato
An ongoing criminal conspiracy = the Roman Catholic Church

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Experts believe the cases may account for up to 15 per cent of the total adoptions that took place in Spain between 1960 and 1989. It began as a system for taking children away from families deemed politically dangerous to the regime of General Franco, which began in 1939. The system continued after the dictator’s death in 1975 as the Catholic church continued to retain a powerful influence on public life, particularly in social services. It was not until 1987 that the Spanish government, instead of hospitals, began to regulate adoptions.
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yrs,
rubato

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:59 am
by BoSoxGal
What?!?! You mean government regulation can be better than private/religious charity?!?!

Say it ain't so!!!!

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:44 am
by Scooter
There was plenty of government involvement in this, and plenty of church involvement as well. Franco used the Roman Catholic Church in Spain to his advantage whenever he could, and it was a willing partner

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 2:50 am
by BoSoxGal
I was referring to the post-1987 period.

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 8:27 pm
by Gob
follow up from the BBC

After months of requests from the BBC, the Spanish government finally put forward Angel Nunez from the justice ministry to talk to me about Spain's stolen children.

Asked if babies were stolen, Mr Nunez replied: "Without a doubt".

"How many?" I asked.

"I don't dare to come up with figures," he answered carefully. "But from the volume of official investigations I dare to say there were many."

Lawyers believe that up to 300,000 babies were taken.

The practice of removing children from parents deemed "undesirable" and placing them with "approved" families, began in the 1930s under the dictator General Francisco Franco.

At that time, the motivation may have been ideological. But years later, it seemed to change - babies began to be taken from parents considered morally - or economically - deficient. It became a money-spinner, too.

The scandal is closely linked to the Catholic Church, which under Franco assumed a prominent role in Spain's social services including hospitals, schools and children's homes.

Nuns and priests compiled waiting lists of would-be adoptive parents, while doctors were said to have lied to mothers about the fate of their children.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15335899

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 9:38 pm
by dgs49
Aside from the "playing God" aspect of it, one could do worse.

Welfare queen comes into the hospital, pops her Xth kid..."Sorry, lady, the kid died."

Make the kid available for private adoption to pre-screened parents.

Hmmm.

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 10:04 pm
by Scooter
Because clearly there was an overabundance of "welfare queens" in Spain under Franco.

Pre-screened by whom, and for what?. The Church was being paid for these babies. This was not any kind of a humanitarian mission; it was profiteering in black market babies.

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:20 am
by rubato
God wanted them to lie to mothers, steal their children, and sell them to the highest bidder.

Because the Roman Catholic God is just that kind of god!

yrs,
rubato

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:49 am
by dales
Jesus the Christ is reported to have said.

"One cannot serve both God and mammon."

Re: Theft is a crime.

Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:32 pm
by loCAtek
'Cha it happened here, it can't happen anywhere else.