That whole rape experience.

[Gob]

A headteacher today defended his decision to invite pro-life campaigners to his school - who told students that abortions cause cancer.

Parents were outraged when their 14 and 15-year-old children came home saying they were told having a termination increases the chances of developing breast cancer.

The bizarre claim - which has no scientific basis - was made in front of youngsters at Comberton Village College, Cambridgeshire, by the Society for the Protection of the Unborn Child (SPUC).

Representatives said abortions can cause breast cancer, infertility and result in the death of the mother.

It is said the group also claimed something positive can come from ‘that whole rape experience’.

Julian Hitchcock, a leading expert on the law around stem cells and IVF technologies who has a teenage daughter at the school, said he was 'appalled' by the talk.

He said: ‘I am absolutely shaking with anger. I am furious these religious extremists have been allowed to spread their misinformed views to a group of children.’

But school principal Stephen Munday said it gave the Year 10 pupils the 'chance to make their own minds up'.

He said members of Feminist Action Cambridge (FAC) were also invited to the school where they presented the other side of the argument - the pro-choice belief.

In a letter to parents, the principal said the lessons were ‘an appropriate and powerful form of education regarding significant moral issues’.

He wrote: 'Outside speakers from a range of perspectives were invited in to explain their views.

'Pupils were able to question them. Senior staff oversaw the process to ensure proper balance.

'This approach has always received positive feedback from pupils who are clear that it has helped them to reflect properly on these significant issues.

'These are intelligent young people who, if you know what teenagers are like, cannot be told what to think.'

SPUC showed the Comberton pupils a video by a US Christian campaigner calling for abortion to be made ‘unthinkable’ as part of the Religion and Philosophy Education day when they visited the school on March 9.

The FAC claimed pupils were told: ‘For some people who’ve been raped and had the baby, even if they don’t keep it, something positive comes out of that whole rape experience.’

The presentation also referred to a teenage girl who died after an abortion and a young woman who committed suicide after aborting twins.

Pro-choice campaigners also say SPUC representatives argued that having an abortion increases the risk of breast cancer.

Emma-Rose Cornwall, one of the FAC speakers, said: 'We are appalled at the purposeful twisting of scientific fact and medical misinformation used by SPUC in their presentation, which included the fabricated mental illness "Post Abortion Trauma" and alleged causal links between abortion and infertility, breast cancer, eating disorders, drug abuse and suicide.'

A representative of SPUC said: 'The link with breast cancer is because if a woman has an abortion, particularly in her first pregnancy, changes have to take place in her breasts.

'If during that pregnancy she has an abortion - then it can leave those cells in the breasts in a kind of half-changed state and statistically, that increases her risk of developing breast cancer later on in life.

'I am not saying this is something that’s going to happen to everybody.'

A study co-ordinated by Cancer Research UK has shown that abortion does not increase the risk of breast cancer.

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[Scooter]

I can still remember my grade 12 religion class (Love, Marriage and the Family) when our teacher had a priest come in and tell us that between rape and masturbation, masturbation was the greater sin, because at least rape held out the possibility of procreation, and so could fulfill at least one of the intended purposes of sex.

What could be more fucked up than telling a bunch of 17 year old boys, who are pretty much at their sexual peak, that they will be better off diffusing some of that sexual energy by raping some girl than jerking off. And then Catholics wonder why people think the Church is a diseased institution.

[dales]

The only reason the "good" priest believed that masturbation a "sin" is because he took the biblical account totally out of context.

The rest (rape) is so off the charts as to doubt the man's sanity.

[Sue U]

I don't fault the school, it sounds like they were putting on a good program designed to help kids be able to discern between opinions; they should know that not everything they hear from grownups is necessarily true, well thought-out or even rational.

As for "SPUC," what the fuck is wrong with these people? That's some batshit crazy right there.

[dgs49]

There are sufficient arguments against abortion that distortions should not be necessary.

Anyone who could honestly be characterized as a "Pro-Choice Campaigner," is bat-shit crazy, and not to be heard without a couple grains of salt. What kind of a sick fuck would lead a campaign trying to convince people that there is nothing wrong with killing babies in the womb?

Even for someone who is honestly pro-choice, it is serious, painful decision, to be taken only after due consideration of ALL of the ramifications and alternatives.

[Crackpot]

There's batshit people on both sides of the argument. How about those who would like to force severe hydrocephalics to term? Because we all know that God desires a woman to die a horrible painful death to deliver a child who if by some miracle survies full term wil either die within the week or "live" only on countinuous life support.

[Sue U]

There's batshit people on both sides of the argument.

I don't buy that. No one in the pro-choice movement is saying that every woman must or should have an abortion. No one is saying abortion is the preferred first-choice mode of family planning. No one is advocating for surgery as first-line therapy when other methods (e.g. "morning after" pill) are available.

And no one is "trying to convince people that there is nothing wrong with killing babies in the womb." There is, however, something wrong with trying to convince people that a fertilized egg or a ball of cells is a "baby." And there is something way fucked up about trying to convince a woman that her rape is simply an "experience" with a resulting pregnancy as "something good" that came out of it.

[Crackpot]

You havn't been listening to the wrong (right) people then. I've heard some of those very words come out of people mouths. to be sure they're a very small minority (just as they are on the other side) but hey they make good copy who cares if they don't know what they're talking about or got carried away in the moment.

[Sue U]

Any links?

[Crackpot]

Just my memory. I don't have any links to my Hydrocephalic example either tho I'm sure you don't dispute that. Partizans in any issue tend to disregard and ignore the bad arguments from thir own side while making as much hay as possible from the others. Just one of those flaws in human nature.

Personally I'm pro Choice but only because I don't trust the people who would be writing the regulations to make sane ones ond just as many if not more reductions in abortions could be made by other means. (better accdes to bitrh control, education, etc...