Good Heavens!

[Joe Guy]

Heaven is real, says neurosurgeon who claims to have visited the afterlife

Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife.

But after a week in a coma during the fall of 2008, during which his neocortex ceased to function, Alexander claims he experienced a life-changing visit to the afterlife, specifically heaven.

"According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent," Alexander writes in the cover story of this week's edition of Newsweek.

So what exactly does heaven look like?

Alexander says he first found himself floating above clouds before witnessing, "transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer like lines behind them."

He claims to have been escorted by an unknown female companion and says he communicated with these beings through a method of correspondence that transcended language. Alexander says the messages he received from those beings loosely translated as:

"You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever."

"You have nothing to fear."

"There is nothing you can do wrong."

From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God.

After recovering from his meningitis-induced coma, Alexander says he was reluctant to share his experience with his colleagues but found comfort inside the walls of his church. He's chronicled his experience in a new book, "Proof of Heaven: A neurosurgeon's journey into the afterlife," which will be published in late October.

"I'm still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience," Alexander writes. "But on a deep level I'm very different from the person I was before, because I've caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the work it will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right."

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[rubato]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are medical doctors.

Guess why?

yrs,
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[MajGenl.Meade]

You're saying that medical doctors are the most fertile ground for financial fraudsters?

Is it because they are highly educated, science minded, college degreed, affluent professionals with oodles of free time on their hands? That's a point - people like that tend to be simple-minded and gullible

Meade

[Sean]

A true man of science would not have used the word 'proof' in the title of his book...

[MajGenl.Meade]

I understand that he didn't actually do that. It was originally called "Of Heaven: etc" But it went to the printer with the big red Proof stamp still in place.

[rubato]

You're saying that medical doctors are the most fertile ground for financial fraudsters?

Is it because they are highly educated, science minded, college degreed, affluent professionals with oodles of free time on their hands? That's a point - people like that tend to be simple-minded and gullible

Meade

No, try again.



yrs,
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[MajGenl.Meade]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are (sic) medical doctors.

Guess why?

That's a tough sentence to wring meaning from - the first one I mean.

OK. Are you saying that medical doctors, far from being gullible victims of financial fraud, are in fact the breeding ground for financial fraudsters? That is, medical doctors have a greater tendency to con people out of money than (say) fake doctors (PhD I mean) who are far too busy plagiarizing at Harvard and in peer-reviewed publications to bother with such small bucks schemes?

I like this game
Meade

[Rick]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are medical doctors.

Guess why?

yrs,
rubato

Is yer wife a fertility fraudster?

[dales]

No shes a supportus husbandus.

[Gob]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are medical doctors.

Guess why?

It's easier to get them come to bud under those conditions? How much light do they need?

[kristina]

Full sun, keep out of the wind, temp 70F or above, and ample fertilizer...

[Gob]

[Lord Jim]

No shes a supportus husbandus.

[rubato]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are medical doctors.

Guess why?

yrs,
rubato

Is yer wife a fertility fraudster?

No. Unless providing birth control and education about it is 'fraud'.


yrs,
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[rubato]

Not funny, and unintelligent.

Sorry, try again?

yrs,
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[MajGenl.Meade]

Who were Romney and Ryan?

I'll take 'Fraudster or Doctor' for 500 please Alex

[Gob]

The MOST fertile ground for financial fraudsters are medical doctors.

Guess why?

yrs,
rubato

Is yer wife a fertility fraudster?

No. Unless providing birth control and education about it is 'fraud'.


yrs,
rubato

Not funny, and unintelligent.

Sorry, try again?

yrs,
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Hysterical....

[rubato]

Poor babies.

Try again?

1.
Economic class.

2.
The famous modesty of physicians.

3.
What did the "the Amazing Randy" say about the gullibility of physicists?

Now try little dears.

You are probably slightly less stupid than you appear. I'm hoping.

yrs,
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[Guinevere]

The famous modesty of physicians? I believe rube is making a little joke, because that it one of the funniest statements I've ever read.

[MajGenl.Meade]

My responses interpolated in red

Poor babies.

Try again?

1.Economic class. er.... upper

2.The famous modesty of physicians. That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.

3.What did the "the Amazing Randy" say about the gullibility of physicists? Don't know. Couldn't find a direct quote, only other people saying he thought they are the easiest to fool

Now try little dears. You are probably slightly less stupid than you appear. It's good that you still have optimism after waking up unchanged
I'm hoping.
yrs, rubato

OK so now I've got it! Finally!

All real (i.e. medical) doctors have a lot of spare time; all fake doctors (i.e. physicists) are bombastic self-promoters; and the Amazing Randi can't spell his own name? Which means that.... sorry, still don't get the connection to the op.

Guess I don't get the new Cadillac then

Medoctor?