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We Are Indeed Fortunate To Have The 1st Amendment In The USA

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http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/1 ... __T_shirt/
ARREST THREAT: Matthew Taylor and the T-shirt police have forced him to remove from display

A NEWPORT shopkeeper has been forced by police to remove a T-shirt from his shop window because they felt it “could be seen to be inciting racial hatred.”

Matthew Taylor, 35, the owner of Taylor’s clothes store on Emlyn Walk in the city, printed up and displayed the T-shirt with the slogan: “Obey our laws, respect our beliefs or get out of our country” after Drummer Lee Rigby, 25, was killed in near Woolwich barracks in London last week.

But following a complaint from a member of the public, police came to his store and threatened to arrest him unless he removed the Tshirt from sight.[one disgruntled misfit is enoughto causr this much trouble?]

Mr Taylor said: “I had a visit from two CSOs (community support officers) because it has been reported by someone who felt it was offensive.

“It’s not meant to be offensive.

I didn’t produce it to be offensive. It’s what I believe.

“At the end of the day if you don’t like the way a country is run and don’t like our beliefs then go somewhere else, don’t go killing people.

“I don’t care if you Welsh, Scottish, English, go somewhere else if you don’t like it.”


Mr Taylor said obviously the killing of Drummer Rigby had been in his mind, but having lived in Chepstow close to Beachley barracks for a number of years the armed forces were particularly close to his heart.

He said the T-shirt seemed to have gone down well.

“I had one person shout that it was ‘disgusting’ but on the whole most people have reacted positively to it,” Mr Taylor said.

“I think the person who reported me was a bit too sensitive and hasn’t read it properly.

“I don’t see it as racist. I took it down because it is meant to be a statement about any race. Any colour.

“I’m offended I have had to take it down. I can’t see why I can’t share my beliefs,” he said.

A spokeswoman for Gwent police confirmed: “ We did have a call from a member of the public. We visited the shop and asked him to remove it (the T-shirt) as it could be seen to be inciting racial hatred.”

‘I see police point of view’ - MP

CHAIRMAN of the Welsh affairs select committee, David Davies MP said: “ I think the police are well aware of that (the current heightened tensions between communities) and I can see their point of view.

It’s a very sensitive time.

“But I can see this guy’s point of view and the statement he is making. You should not be in this country if you are not prepared to obey the laws.

I think the vast majority of people in this country of all races would agree with that.

So I don’t think it is a racist matter at but I can see the police’s point of view.”

Newport city councillor, Majid Rahman said: “I believe in freedom of speech and defend his rights to say what he wants, but once it starts offending people then it’s a police matter and it’s up to them whether they think it’s broken any laws.”

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Wass
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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The PC police are just running rampant in the UK.
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PS. If he had any balls he'd tell them he was not removing it, and ask them to prove it's offensive.
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Yes, you're so fortunate to have the 1st Amendment in the U.S. that you had school children being terrorized by Secret Service agents over posters critical of GW, and people who wanted to send a protest message to same being herded into "free speech zones" miles away from whatever route he was taking and ordered to take off t-shirts that had messages about him.

Funny, but I thought the 1st Amendment made the entire country a "free speech zone".

Tend to the log in your own eye before criticizing how other countries go about their business.
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Scooter wrote: Tend to the log in your own eye before criticizing how other countries go about their business.
Good idea.

Now go back to Canada.

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I have never had the slightest reticence about pointing out what is wrong with my country, nor have I ever been the jingoistic type who claims that my country is better than anyone else's.
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Neither have I.

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Your $100 bills smell of maple syrup, so there! :nana

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