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Murder In Kansas

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Three dead in shootings at Kansas Jewish centers; man to face charges

(Reuters) - The suspect in the Passover Eve killings of three people at two Jewish community centers in the Kansas City area was scheduled to appear in court on Monday to face murder charges.

Police said it was too early to determine if Sunday's killings were motivated by anti-Semitism, but a leading anti-hate group said the suspect was a former senior member of the white supremacist Ku Klux Klan movement.

"We know it's a vicious act of violence. Obviously two Jewish facilities, one might make that assumption," Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass told a news conference.

The victims included a 14-year-old boy.

Authorities in Kansas identified the suspect as Frazier Glenn Cross, Jr., 73.

The Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups, said Cross was once the grand dragon of the Carolina Knights of the Ku Klux Klan. It said his wife had told the center on Sunday that police informed her Cross had been arrested in connection with the shootings.

Cross was being held on suspicion of premeditated murder in the first degree and was to appear in court on Monday afternoon, according to jail records.

The shootings, which took place on the eve of the Jewish holiday of Passover, started around 1 p.m. at the Jewish Community Center of Greater Kansas City in Overland Park. Two males were shot in a parking lot outside the center, one dying at the scene and the other at a hospital later, police said.

The shooter then drove a mile away to the Village Shalom retirement community and fatally shot a woman there, Douglass said.

The male victims were identified as Reat Griffin Underwood, 14, a high school freshman, and his grandfather, Dr. William Corporon, family member Will Corporon said in a statement. Both were members of the United Methodist Church of the Resurrection.

Underwood was an Eagle Scout who loved camping and hunting, Corporon said. Dr. Corporon had moved to the Kansas City area in 2003 to be closer to his grandchildren.

Douglass said he could not confirm reports from witnesses that the suspect had yelled "Heil Hitler" from the back of a squad car after being taken into custody, but video posted on YouTube by local television stations appeared to confirm that.

"The suspect in the back of a car made several statements," Douglass said. "We are sifting through ...those." The FBI had been called in to help with the investigation.

It appeared the gunman had used a shotgun and possibly other firearms, he said.

President Barack Obama offered condolences. "While we do not know all of the details ... the initial reports are heartbreaking," Obama said in a statement.

The Jewish Community Center, which is also the site of Kansas City's only Jewish community day school, the Hyman Brand Hebrew Academy, was a hub of activity on Sunday.

Several youth groups were meeting, people were auditioning for a music production and the academy was preparing for a school dance. Many non-Jewish people regularly join the facility's activities.

"The thought of something like that happening is terrifying," said David Wainestock, who rushed to the Jewish Community Center to retrieve his 16-year-old daughter who had been among the people temporarily locked down.

"In the Midwest we think we're safe from this type of thing. But I guess it doesn't make any difference now."

Rabbi David Glickman, of the Beth Shalom synagogue in Overland Park, was at home preparing for the Jewish Passover holiday when he heard the news of the shooting.

"Everybody is shocked that it would happen here," said Glickman. "This is a community that enjoys very strong and positive relations between the Jewish community and the rest of the community."

The Kansas City area's Jewish community numbers about 20,000.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/ ... MX20140414

It turns out there no question that this crime had to be motivated by anti-semitsm; this dirtbag has quite a history and reputation:
Frazier Glenn Cross, who goes by the name Glenn Miller, is accused of premeditated murder in the first degree in the shootings in Overland Park, Kan., according to information by the Johnson County (Kan.) Sheriff's Office.

The poverty law center says Cross has served at least two jail terms, including "three years in federal prison after being indicted on weapons charges and for plotting robberies and the assassination of [poverty law center] founder Morris Dees."

Cross "is a perennial candidate for office, including running in 2006 against then-U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt, R-Mo. He ran against Blunt in 2010 when Blunt was elected to the Senate. Cross made headlines in the 2010 campaign for his racist and anti-Semitic campaign ads. Federal law required broadcast stations to air the ads even though they did not want to put such vile rantings on their airwaves."

after he was arrested Sunday, Cross "went on a rant inside the patrol car. Though Overland Park Police Chief John Douglass wouldn't say what Cross hollered, a television crew captured him on video while he was handcuffed in the back of the car. 'Heil Hitler,' Miller yelled out, and then he bobbed his head up and down."
All morning I've been listening to a lot of clucking on the cable news channels, about whether or not the guy is going to be charged with a "hate crime"....

Huh? Hello? Who the hell cares? The guy murdered three people in cold blood; he's facing charges that in Kansas carry the Death Penalty; I'll bet he's sitting in his cell just sweating bullets over whether he's going to get a "hate crime enhancement"... :roll:

Much of the media has a huge fascination with "hate crimes" (especially when committed by right-wing white guys) but I suspect that most normal people are more concerned about the whole murder thing...

One get's the impression that there are many in the press who somehow think the "hate crime" is more important than the cowardly premeditated murder. Talk about convoluted values...

Screw the "hate crime"; get this scumbag a trial on the murder charges, let him have his appeals, and then administer the justice he deserves for the actual crimes...
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Glenn Miller's website: http://www.whty.org/

If you want to know anything more about him (and I can't believe anyone actually does), he was a frequent poster at the Vanguard News Network Forum, a vile neo-Nazi slime pit, where he went by the handle "Rounder." And no, I won't link to it, you can find that filth for yourself, if that's your kind of thing.
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I'm not sure how such things are formally defined, but this kind of hate has to cross the line into mental pathology.

It is not possible to adequately punish such deeds.

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Lord Jim wrote:It turns out there no question that this crime had to be motivated by anti-semitsm...
"Heil Hitler," Miller yelled out, and then he bobbed his head up and down.
Gee, ya think? What gave it away?
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Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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